New Zealand to ban military style semi-automatic weapons...

Three "Pic's Of Chicks"......And Not One "Butt Shot"........I Am Concerned For Your Welfare "HW"......

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Cheers Glen.

 

Proceeds to the Butt thread to reclaim my manhood

 

What a crock of crap! You have an unhealthy fear of a pistol grip on a rifle. You think it will magically turn a rifle into a super gun. I'll have to ask you to support that crock of crap with some evidence please.

Ya know, the thing that really makes guns more deadly is those godawful sights. I say we make sights on guns illegal. I know you're with me on this. I just know it.

Not drinking while using a gun also makes them way more accurate. I say we outlaw sobriety.

However, I suppose if the shooter had arthritis so bad that it immobilized his wrist, then maybe a pistol grip would help him overcome his handicap. But other than that, I think you're just paranoid.

 

Humans need guns . Especially guns that spray numerous projectiles at the desired target/s to get the "job" done efficiently. We started out killing/maiming one another with pieces of wood and objects picked up from the ground I would imagine. Perhaps the strong could actually choke or beat another human to death. That would have been taking a chance for sure. Worked well if one could get close enough and was brave enough to weather counter attack from others using their OWN pieces of wood. Spears, bows and arrows, slings and such introduced the ideas of being able to harm others from distance without being harmed, if stealth was employed. Now we were getting somewhere! Then the Chinese figured out how to combine some chemicals that would explode with a great amount of noise and the ability to do great harm to whatever was in the area of said explosions. Viola!! It was then determined by some enterprising individual, that one could make a smaller explosion in a tube device and do harm from a very considerable distance. Now we were REALLY getting somewhere!! Stealth was made much less important with this development. In most instances, not needed at all. Of course with the alacrity and steadfast imagination of the human species, we now have the means to kill/maim our fellow humans from a few miles away to thousands of miles distant. The grand explosions are almost beyond belief and are truly wondrous to behold. The smaller ones employed by those taking advantage of the tube method are very , very efficient indeed as one can see and read about in our modern press releases daily.
So, to sum up, we all should appreciate the ability --the ingenuity of the human mind to constantly improve on that which came before us. We do not need clubs and rocks to get some "jobs" done now--we have our guns. Thank god for that.

 

Stopped at the station to fill up the tank
4 niggas rollin, I better watch out for the gank
Move, it was smooth, one of the fools jumped out
Started poppin all this ying-yang from his mouth
I said, 'Look, my name is Eiht, and I'm your local town rapper'
He said 'So what? I'm your local town jacker'
Right then I knew I couldn't reason with the chap
So the thought came; 'E, peel his cap!'
I reached under the seat, the sucker got brave
[Gun Shots]
'Sucker!' The punk was sprayed

 

I know, right? These sheltered, self righteous people feel better about other people having to defend against a home invader with their bare hands than to have an effective means of doing so.

I mean, I like a good challenge as much as the next guy, but a guy's got to draw the line somewhere.

 

How can I be wrong? I wasn't giving an opinion because I have no idea what a pistol grip even is : )

I was purely commenting on the silliness of thinking someone would want them outlawed just to annoy people who don't want them outlawed.

But thanks for enlightening me on what they do.

 

Why don't we just make guns with their barrels bent at ninety degree angles so they can't hit anything?

 

Given the limitations on firing rate imposed by a semi-auto action, what degree of improvement in rapid firing is brought about by having a pistol grip on these guns?

I question whether the difference is great enough to provide a compelling government interest in restricting them.

 

Sad to see New Zealand allowing terrorism to work.

 

With the example of a sniper riffle there are still things a gun owner will desire for accuracy such as a good sight. Again they want to improve the engineering and design.

 

Modernization is good.

 

MG42. No site. No fancy grip. Just a 1000 rounds a minute.

 

Yeah, I said they serve a functional purpose. I said that they are more comfortable for the wrist. And I've made that point to you before when I explained ergonomics. You and others become hysterically ridiculous when you speculate that they turn a gun into a super gun. However, you have admitted that there is no data to validate your speculation concerning the added deadliness that a pistol grip poses. In reality, we do know the purpose of pistol grips. You've simply attached false meaning to them that you cannot support with argument or data. You have even arbitrarily decided that shooters shoot so fast that, without a pistol grip they would miss their targets.

About recoil, you said that the pistol grip was necessary to stabilize the gun because of barrel rise. Then, in order to demonize the gun, you claimed that what makes it dangerous is that it has little recoil and that anyone can shoot it. I'm sure you see the contradiction between your two statements there. Since you're an advocate of banning pistol grips, you're going to have to show how much more dangerous a rifle is when it has one. You haven't done that. So your whole argument against pistol grips rests on your assumption that someone shooting a rifle will not pause to take aim at their second target and then their third, which is just you creating the reality that best supports your unreasonable fear of a pistol grip.

And then you say that I should have no problem with banning pistol grips since I say that they don't add what you call "deadliness" to a rifle. The point of opposing you is so that we don't allow you and your unfounded fears to dictate what should and should not be banned. Humoring you by acquiescencing to your hysteria concerning pistol grips will only encourage you and others like you to take your paranoia even further because that's how paranoia works. And besides, I don't owe you anything; least of all validation of your unfounded fears.

 

You guys have been arguing about pistol grips for a good 2 or 3 years now lol

 

Because we dislike having our civil liberties violated.

 

While it is true that you don't think that you've ever said that there isn't any data concerning how a pistol grip affects a shooter, it is also true that you did say it, and have simply forgotten. I specifically remember trying to get you to prove that a pistol grip is the dangerous thing you say it is. And you did say, "I didn't answer you about how the lack of a pistol grip would affect a mass shooting as there isn't any data on that one way or another." So . . .

And don't try to feed me any bullshit about how unethical it would be set up a test to determine whether or not your irrational fear of the pistol grip is justified. Police and Swat Teams use dummies and other such nonhuman elements in their training. My guess is that your obsession with pistol grips has affected your capacity to consider anything that would lead to diminishing that specter of danger in your mind.

And apparently, you've also forgotten my answer to your question about why I have a problem with allowing pistol grips to be banned if they don't make a rifle more deadly. So I'll repeat myself.

You say that I should have no problem with banning pistol grips since I say that they don't add what you call "deadliness" to a rifle. The point of opposing you is to prevent you and your unfounded fears from dictating what should and should not be banned. Humoring you by acquiescencing to your hysteria concerning pistol grips will only encourage you and others like you to take your paranoia even further because that's how paranoia works. And besides, I don't owe you anything; least of all validation of your unfounded fears. It's like I can tell you that there isn't a boogieman in my closet, but I sure as hell ain't gonna lock it and board it up just so you don't have to be afraid of something that you can't even prove exists.