Did learning about 9/11 change the way you think

How you think about the U.S government

I have to admit in my youth and in my early 20’s I was very patriotic. After 9/11 happened and the years after I still continued with the thought that our government was doing the right thing.
The Internet started getting big I started watching YouTube videos. It really opened my eyes to a lot of things that was not being told by the mainstream media and I actually felt foolish about believing the official story. What are your thoughts on this? This is what makes me not like politics or government

 

I was never patriotic, and was inclined not to trust the government (or anyone else) from a pretty young age. Not sure if this says anything good about me, but there it is. It's hard to say whether or not 9/11 had an effect on my thinking, because I will never know what my thinking would be like if the towers never fell.

 

It was the Iraq war of 2002 that changed the way I think about the US. I remember thinking there was no way the American people would fall for it. But they did, and I've been a semi-recluse ever since. People who like Hillary need to remember she voted for that war, which was nothing more than wagging the dog.

 

I enlisted in the military in the mid 60's. It had nothing to do with patriotism, I simply wanted adventure. I was promoted ahead of my peers and, by age 21, was element leader in a bit of a special AF unit. My element was assigned mostly to SouthCom, (South America Command).

I saw this government act solely for the benefit of US corporations, and their profits, and not out of any moral or ethical purposes. I now regret being part of it.

Anyone who trusts, or even likes, the US government and it's greedy politicians are either naïve or stupid.

 

Grrrrrrr

I will wait till september again to get wound up when some idiot regurgitates "virtual freefall into its own footprint"

 

Oh Fuck not again !

 

Seeing how a lot of Americans view and deal with 9/11 it probably changed how I think about the american public more than how I think about politics or the american government.

 

911 was just a factory job for low income Americans.. Trust me I was there.

 

yeah, not so much 9/11 but the whole aftermath. it's also worth noting that i was a senior in high school when 9/11 happened, so i was right at that age where people care about the government and form their opinions on it.

 

9/11 was disappointing to me because people gave in to fear. The event laid the foundations for the xenophobia and lack of rights we see now. Like no one cared about Muslims in the year 2000. They were still the largest religion in the world then. To this day some Americans hate and fear a Muslim more than anything when it's been shown the attack was not a Muslim one.

Long term the whole goal of the attack was to slowly condition Americans to accept the world we live in now. Americans are partotic and hold values dear. It takes a lot to make them say "freedom is not good because a Muslims can use it". They have now and that patotism is turned into faicst tendencies. Makes snese when tyou think that facism is just very strong love of a country.

People will think what they will but two key points,

1. A building like the Trade Center is designed to withstand the impact of a jet. Accidents do happen. The way the building falls is a controlled demolition. Anyone with engineering and a architecture background can see this. It's just too controlled and precise to be an accident.

1. The US Air Force had 15 attack drills in the year 2000. Each time the pilots were told only an attack is happening or this plane is off course with a weapon so get your ass into the air space of this city. EVERY time the pilots were there in minutes ready to fire. Only then were they told this is a drill. On 9/11 the same attack system went off. The USAF knows where every plane in American air space is commercial and private. For some reason as soon as they got this alarm on 9/11 they got the message before pilots entered their air crafts this is a drill so ignore it. This requires extremely high security clearance. It means that the boss of the pilots boss does not even get to make that call.

It make zero logical sense to assume the USAF is this easy to get past. Many pilots have stories of day dreaming and they find a F-16 next to them. The F-16 gets on the radio and says you are off course get back on course or I will fire because if you are off course a hostile force is controlling you. They have had this policy since the Cold War. What is a Russian has a nuke on a plane? We must kill Americans in the air so millions do not die on American land.

Those planes can and should have been shot down when the USAF got no reply on the radio.

 

I was already thoroughly wary of government by the time 9/11 happened. And the whole day just reeked to me of a huge planned-out spectacle. My mom was getting pissed at me because I was so blase about the whole thing. Then when I said it shouldn't be used as a pretext for war, people on the internet were calling me a monster. Now they're all totally opposed to what it was used for, of course.

It was clearly designed to unite Americans under American imperialism. It definitely changed me, because it changed America, and I'm an American. Vanilla Gorilla, off in Australia, could never understand what a shift there was in people's attitudes immediately following. Suddenly Toby Keith became one of our greatest thinkers.

 

So you're a conspiracy nut too?

 

Yes, but it's also a very right wing community and I don't agree with most mainstream conspiracy theories because of this. They usualy all come back to the Democratic party while the Republicans do nothing wrong. I focus more on the big picture and see the left and right wing are the same bird.

 

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Same. I was a junior or senior in high school (cant remember which) when the Iraq war started, we watched the war televised from my world history class. I had never been politically aware before then but thats when things started to click for me, I knew we didnt find WMDs yet we were invading. Even though I was young I knew it wasnt right

There were people cheering in my class as we watched missiles being fired

9/11 just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth now because it was a vulnerable moment for America and I feel we saw the best of America in the days following 9/11, but the government took that vulnerability and that sense of unity and twisted it for their own agenda.

 

All I remember in the aftermath was the bloodlust, people saying we should turn the middle east into glass, the hero worship of Guiliani, Bush, Cheney, et al, and the horrible 9/11 country songs on the radio. I had zero desire to unite with any of that at all. I thought the whole thing was goddamn dumb. And it was.

 

^yeah, thats true. I guess I tuned a lot of that out until Iraq happened

Remember freedom fries yall
And all the flags..so many goddamn flags

 

Where were you when the world stopped turning on that September day...?

 

We'll put a boot in their ass, it's the american way

 

The worst was that 9/11 concert with all the different artists. Paul Simon played the Boxer. When they got to the part of "in the clearing stands a boxer" the camera switched to Rudy Guiliani. UGH. It was so lame.

I hate 9/11. Then the Who playing "We Won't Be Fooled Again." Sorry, the Who, looks like you were.