Gun bump stocks banned

Sure, and you can always make more kids . . .

 

Anyone breaks into my house, I'll ask him politely if he wouldn't mind too much not hurting me. Please take all my possessions and don't bother the others sleeping. Thank you. Oh -- and happy new year!

 

Exactly! So the thing to remember is that when someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, their safety and security becomes your responsibility.

 

I guess I'll take that 357 out from under my pillow and sell it. There's no reason to believe that when someone breaks into my house at 3 am, that they have sinister intentions. I can see someone mistaking one of my windows for one of theirs. Golly, let's not be so uptight about people making mistakes.

 

I would not say that. There is lot of ground between death and broken limbs.

You can also do a lot to discourage theft. For example I have a pitbull she barks every time someone is at the door. I have heard many burglars say this makes them go to a new house.

The dog could attack and is for sure making a scene. What if cops are called? So they have to kill the dog (which makes more noise gun shots and what not) which some are not willing to do.

Other little things like closed windows on top floors help.

My manhood it not tied a gun. For those who get passionate about a lot of topics that are "manly" come into it such as protecting kids and wives.

I'm 6'6 and like I said I know some of that funky karate. I am not concerned about helping those in need if I had to.

 

Sure, I lock my doors and keep my windows closed. But if that doesn't work, I'm going to deal with the situation.

My manhood is not tied to a gun. However, your obsession with using your fists and feet to deal with a midnight intruder seems to indicate what your manhood is tied to.

You're going to have to rewrite the last sentence I quoted from your post. It almost sounds as if you were trying to undermine someone's desire to protect their kids and spouse.

 

Not sure how you can say my desire to work out and have a clear mind is the same thing. What kind of exercise does a gun range give? I have never used my skills on anyone but my sensei and peers in sparing but sure I could if I had to. So when a hold or hit happens it's light and you stop before any real damage. That is the opposite of a gun. There is no practice when it fires it's real.

Not only my friend that I mentioned but others in my life are victims of gun crime. It's why I care so much for ending it. If I don't help who will?

 

Here come the logical fallacies.....

 

Oh there's nothing wrong with working out and having a clear mind. Hell, I'm all for that. But you judge those who use a firearm against a midnight intruder as having their manhood tied to a gun. All that's really happened is that someone defended their loved ones against an actual threat. You're just intolerant of those who have not taken up martial arts, and those who are not physically fit enough to deal with a midnight intruder using just their fists and feet.

 

I believe it started here:

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In Austrailia it's harder to get a gun. Not impossible but that's a silly bar for crime and gun owners know it. Like why even have any laws? People are going to murder, they will steal, so why punish me? Laws exist and criminals break them. It does not mean you are entitled to go to the level of a criminal. You would do a prison term in many countries if you killed a man breaking into your house. It's unreaoanable force. That could be America one day.

 

If you can't see them, how do you know who it is? If you don't know who it is, how do you know its a break-in? I am all for defending your home and family, but self-defense is imo a pretty tough argument if you admittedly don't know what you're shooting at

 

Well, let's see how your argument holds up. What would you do if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night?

 

Well first of all I have the element of surprise. I know the layout of my house. He probably does not know where I am. If he knows I am here sure he might be at the level of killing me with a gun just to steal some stuff. At that point I would only have my body and non-Thales defense weapon like a baseball bat. Something that like I've said is enough to make it so this person is alive and still unable to attack me.

I admit it's possible for me or others to die here with a gun which I guess for you is where you think you use element of surprise to shoot first and kill? This chance is a risk we take and are willing to. I suppose I have the luck of never being a war zone of seeing a murder or something to that effect.

Thinking in the way special forces would or a ninja. I do not let him know I am here. I can be on him quickly and likely incapacitate him. Or he shoots. Life is a risk but my life is not worth someone else's in that way.

Most likely I would just not leave my room and wait. He will either realize what is up when he gets there and run or he opens the door and my arms are around him and arms broken in seconds. He can not do anything then. I then call the cops. Anything he took I get back soon.

Guns are not stealth sometimes stealth is good.

 

If all the variables involved happen to work out just right and in just the right order to allow for a nonfatal resolution, that's great. But if not, then I'll proceed with the idea that my life and my family's life is worth more than the bad guy's life.

 

How do you know they’re a bad guy? You explained previously how you’d shoot at someone you can’t see

 

If they've broken into my house in the middle of the night, then I'll assume that they're a bad guy. And if I can't see them, I'll shoot in their vicinity. If I can see them, then I'll shoot them in the leg, unless they see that I have a gun pointing right at them, and they run or raise their hands.

 

Aiming for a leg with a single slug is foolhardy outdoors in full sunlight. The chances of a hit are diminished when compared to center mass. But the chances for ancillary damage or injuries are enhanced. I imagine if you shot out a knee joint in a deer's front leg, you'd have an easier time tracking it, faster too. And yet, I have never met a deer hunter that would consider it.

For in the house a revolver with a couple of rounds of rat shot, followed by a couple of rounds of hollow points, would be effective in at least a minimal proactive way to avoid a first shot kill. Even with rat shot the way the room lights up will demonstrate your resolve. But it will totally give away your position, so plan your oblique move before you pull the trigger.

 

Ahhh--could be a salesman getting an early start. Got to admire some initiative.

 

And you actually think shooting toward an unknown target that you can’t see is both being a responsible gun owner and constitutes self defense? I’m not anti-gun or anti-2nd amendment but I am against shooting at things I can’t see