Gun bump stocks banned

Oh I never said anything about being worried about my tv. However, I did say that I would be worried about me and my family. If a person is in my house in the middle of the night, I have no idea what he has in mind. And since midnight intruders are not notorious for being honest when asked about their intentions, I'll stop them in their tracks. If I ended up being tried in court, the jury would decide whether or not I acted in a reasonable manner, given the circumstances. That's their job.

And what would you recommend in such a situation? Should I open my bedroom window and flee, leaving the intruder to see to the safety and welfare of my family?

 

To be totally honest, in the situation you describe, I strongly doubt criminal charges would be brought against you. You'll probably be sued by the estate of the deceased in civil court, but that always happens.

 

You would have to accept the burglary. You can punch him I guess but you would have no right to "stand ground".


You don't know attorneys if you think you could get off. If you did it would require VERY careful juror selection from your lawyer and in the right city which is not an option you have it's where the "crime" happend. It's not hard to find people like me who don't like guns and it's not hard to excuse those who do. Something like NRA membership is easily checked and you are gone. Like any case you need the right jury. Can you beat a guy who does this every day?

 

I linked this to an attorney friend and he chuckled and said " I wonder what law school he went to".

 

Yeah, I believe that.

 

Lawyers don't have friends whom they meet through shared interests in weed laws? When you go to college you meet other people in a college. I guess you could call some local guys and ask what they think. Most are happy to for free give you a rundown on their views of the case.

 

Accept the robbery? In the middle of the night I have no idea what the intruder's intentions are. It's dark and he knows that we're home. I find it hard to believe that you would simply put up your hands and accept the possible rape of your daughter or slaying of any or all of your family.

Castle Doctrine

Again, in some states, a person is privileged to use deadly force against anyone who unlawfully enters their home. In these states, there is no need to take the time to assess the intruder's ability to use deadly or nonlethal force. However, the specifics and applicability vary state to state. If you are uncertain about your state's rule, it may be advisable to consult with an attorney to learn more.

 

Ok, I'll play. I sent a link to my "attorney friend" and he said neither you nor your "friend" know what you're talking about. This is fun.

 

If true (which I doubt considering I began this topic and it upset you) I guess this is why they go to court. The law can be argued.

And personally I do know someone who went on trial for a gun "accident" when he shot his neighbor attempting to shoot an intruder and his lawyer a member of the NRA was happy to say he has this. That guy did 5 years for involuntary manslaughter. I was also on the stand for this trial and I said I knew he liked guns but I did not think he would misuse them. I was the attorneys pick to be a good reference since the other guy painted it as a crazy violent gun owner.

He went for "rights" and lost since the jury was convinced he use the gun recklessly.

My point is such laws will not exist forever. Maybe I was not clear on that.

"accept" meaning you don't have the right to kill over it. Shocking I guess to some Americans but it's how the world works.

 

The statue here (609.065) reads as follows:

In the scenario you described earlier, the individual breaking into your house in the middle of the night is committing 1st Degree Burglary. This is a felony and, according to statute, constitutes a deadly force situation.

 

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Who said anything about being upset?

You're talking about a completely different scenario than is being discussed here.

Maybe they will. Maybe they won't. Either way no, you weren't clear.

According to the law, someone does indeed have the right if defending his/her family and home against the commission of a felony. State statute (at least here) and supreme court rulings have been quite clear on this.

EDIT: Fixed a spelling error.

 

So you're saying that despite having children sleeping in other rooms when an intruder has broken in, I have no right to protect them from the intruder. Exactly what it the protocol that you believe is correct in that situation?

 

How? You say you can and will kill a man who breaks in. I am telling you from personal experience the right jury will sentence you.

This is why I know martial arts. I gurentee I could get a gun out of the right hands. Not all hands and when the cops come his arms are only broken. Or honestly I would leave my house. I have money and things can be replaced.

My girlfriend can not. I would never do anything to risk her life or take the life of another. I would rather die than kill. Not worth it to shoot.

This is also why ninja learned what they did. You don't need a weapon your body is a good one.

 

Whut?

 

Ask them politely to stop and explain why they should stop in a long winded internet post that somehow manages to not actually say anything?

 

Life is love. It is not worth taking life. Anything I own I can buy again. And if I loose it it's only stuff. I have no kids to save. If I did they would know ninjitsu as well. For health mental and physical. Unless they did not like it I guess. I thought it was awesome.

 

That's you're call and you're welcome to it. However, you don't get to decide for the rest of us.

 

You are right I do not. But many of my fellow voters make the same choice as me.

Consider that robberies happen in all countries. Yet people there are safe with no guns. Life is a risk and you either live in fear or not.

Gun ownership is fear and the choice to put some lives above others. Glorify it all you want like it's American pie and right. It's strange and scary to the rest of the world.

 

And I guarantee that you could not get a gun out of my hands before I shoot you. Stuff like that works on tv, but in real life, not so much.

And you expect others to leave their house in the middle of the night, leaving their kids to fend off an intruder? Okay. It's good that you respect life, but when it comes down to a choice between your family and a midnight intruder whose intentions are unknown, why would you give the benefit of the doubt to the bad guy to the detriment of your family?

And I think you underestimate how a jury of peers would judge the actions a man who wakes up in the middle of the night to an intruder. Do you really believe that they would tell you that you should have went out the window and left your family to deal with the bad guy?