Mass Shooting 13 Dead Thousand Oaks California

As a matter of fact, Texas permits surgical castration of offenders as an alternative to indefinite incarceration. By 2005, three men had been snipped. Candidates must be at least 21 years of age, have had at least two sex offense convictions, and have undergone at least 18 months of sex offeder treament including Depo Provera injections (chemical castration). California and Florida require mandatory chemical sterilization for repeat sex offenders.

 

You wouldnt own a gun shop by any chance would you?

Your very first post in your intro thread And a quick check of your post history tells us you post exclusively in gun control/shooting threads.

And I am going to assume not just on Hip Forums

Thats a lot of effort on this issue. Highly unlikely that kind of effort doesnt have something to do with you being financial invested in guns or merchandise relating to gun ownership

 

If only the word "wrong" constituted a rebuttal . . .

The man in the video made the argument that a shotgun was as effective as a so-called assault weapon for home defense. You will need to make your case that it would be less effective than a so-called assault weapon in the hands of a mass murderer. Got anything?

As far as comparing an assault rifle with an assault weapon, "the basic difference between an assault rifle and an assault weapon which is also a rifle as opposed to pistol or shotgun, is that an assault rifle has the capacity to fire in semiautomatic or automatic mode, an assault weapon is semiautomatic with no automatic capability." Those are your own words. And it tells us that, according to you, a semiautomatic rifle is an automatic rifle if you call it a weapon instead. You haven't presented anything to show that you weren't being highly illogical there.

Concerning folding stocks and other such things that cause you anxiety, how many grenade attacks originating from a semiautomatic rifle are you aware of? You said you wanted folding stocks banned. Do folding stocks make it easier to conceal a rifle when trying to sneak it in somewhere to do a mass shooting? How many mass shootings are you aware of in which the shooter folded the stock in order to conceal it before shooting (I'm serious, how many)? And how does a flash suppressor help a mass shooter? I mean, there's no one they would need to be trying to hide their intentions from at that point, right? So why is it logical to apply such illogical thinking when it comes to what should be banned?

You haven't addressed that. You've simply made an appeal to some source, but haven't presented anything. You had to be told that an AR-15 has little recoil. And that kind of flew in the face of your argument concerning pistol grips. As for folding stocks, you were asked how many mass shootings you are aware of in which the shooter folded the stock in order to conceal it before shooting? Go ahead.

 

LOL!

Watch out Toggle, the Hip Forums version of Columbo is in investigation mode again.

 

That's it Okie! That's the answer! We round them up, take away their guns and diesel pickups, then we castrate them so they wouldn't be so aggressive towards other citizens. I'm willing to vote for anything which would result in fewer mass shootings!

 

Gee, mass shootings usually take place in an up-close, in your face scenario. But you still believe that they wouldn't be effective, which is strange considering what your video showed. So, in the event that you had your way with the banning of the AR-15, would you begin a campaign to ban pump shotguns when those are used by murderers?

But anyway, could you cite something specific that proves that a folding stock made the difference between a mass shooter's success or failure?

And as luck would have it, I recall you making a case against the AR-15 by claiming that there's little recoil, and that anyone can shoot them. That flies in the face of your case against pistol grips.

And yes, you made a silly distinction between an assault rifle and an assault weapon. And you did so for the purpose of claiming that a semiautomatic rifle can be considered an assault weapon if you call it a weapon instead of a rifle. You were engaging in semantics.

 

Because if the drill didn't have pistol grip there's a chance you'll damage your wrist? Lol. Obvious is obvious. Maybe not on a piss ass Dewalt, but let's just be realistic for a second, without a pistol grip you aren't tightening screws above your head anytime soon.

Furthermore on a cordless drill, where would the battery go without the pistol grip? Did you also know hammers are now moulded with pistol grips too?

Reaching.

 

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A power drill? Uh, yeah, that doesn't do anything for your contradiction concerning your claim that pistol grips on so-called assault rifles (the AR-15 in this case) is all about "barrel rise." And yes, you did make the claim that they have little recoil, and that anyone can shoot them. So . . .

I take it you couldn't find an example of a folding stock being the difference between success and failure to a mass shooter.

 

Yes. This is why I refer to non-Americans as serfs.

The right survived even when the social position did not.

That is incorrect. As it is the origin of our gun rights, it is especially relevant when questions arise as to the age and origins of these rights.

I am not responsible for the history of the human race.

One of the central tenets of freedom is the right to carry arms.

The right continued after the end of Anglo Saxon government in England. After the Norman Conquest, free people were still allowed (required even) to possess arms. This right continued up through modern times, and was brought to North America by British colonists.

There was one brief period in England where a king tried to eliminate this right. This king ended up being forced out of power for his troubles, and the right was subsequently included in the English Bill of Rights.

Those two sentences were not particularly relevant to the origin of our rights. When excerpting sections of an article it is best to focus on the parts of the article that are relevant to what is being discussed.

 

Restricting guns without justification is unconstitutional. Americans don't like having our rights violated.

Not exactly. Guns can be restricted if there is a good reason for that restriction (unless that restriction is severe enough to impede self defense). So it isn't quite any kind of gun.

But if we make it "any type of gun that there is no reason for restricting" then yes.

How come no one has ever been able to present this proof? Not only on this messageboard, but on any messageboard ever.

No. We know for a fact that there is no reason for banning assault weapons.

 

True. This is why murderers are prosecuted in court.

 

lol @ a dewalt drill

 

No.

Not at all. I post in other threads. I haven't been posting actively lately because my computer is lying disassembled on a workbench right now, and I never seem to get a free afternoon to work on it. I want to delid my CPU. I'm sick and tired of Intel's heat sabotage. If I'd have known that it would be that bad, I would have went with AMD when I built my computer.

And, speaking of other threads:
Ryzen 2

Presently I can only post on the internet by borrowing someone else's computer.

I need to go add a post to that car chase thread that I saw in my history when I looked up the computer thread.....

I'm also quite active in Hiroshima/Nagasaki threads, and in threads about Italy's persecution of Amanda Knox (although that is mostly in the past now). However, these topics don't seem to be very prominent on this site.

It is true that I was pointed to this site by someone (I don't intend to say who) who thought my contributions to the gun threads would be useful. However, if my computer had been in working order, I'd very likely have been posting frequently in the movie threads over the past few months.

You don't have issues that you are passionate about?

 

It's OK. I was tempted to dig up my first post here when I saw the earlier posts about the motives of gun rights advocates. I was just too lazy to go dig it up.

 

Hey dewalt makes a fine drill!