Mass Shooting 13 Dead Thousand Oaks California

Telling all citizens to hand over their guns to stop gun crime, makes about as much since as telling all men to cut off their dicks to stop rape.

 

"Free" in this context means non-slave, non-serf. Nineteenth-century scholars often represented the churl as the typical peasant labourer in a kind of Anglo-Saxon democracy. Actually, he was a member of a peasant elite that was gradually extinguished between the 7th and 12th centuries. What you say about churls has no logical relevance to anything--especially gun rights. How churlish of you to bring it up!

No, you did. You're simply equating the right to bear arms with "freedom", as though they were synonyms. What nonsense. And you're ignoring what your own Britannica link tells us.:That the right to bear arms was limited to a small and vanishing stratum of Germanic peasantry. What nonsense.

You left out the next two sentences."Nineteenth-century scholars often represented the churl as the typical peasant labourer in a kind of Anglo-Saxon democracy. Actually, he was a member of a peasant elite that was gradually extinguished between the 7th and 12th centuries.

 

That might work!

 

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Anyone who defaults to hyperbole simply will not be taken seriously.

 

Are you ready to amputate?

 

Hyperbole, is that like superbowl on roids?

 

Took me a second.

Then I chuckled

 

I make myself laugh too.

 

You don't have a right to mass murder innocent people.

 

I think he and that other NRA operative are saying humans have had the right to self defense for the last 2600 years. There were people living in Shanidar Cave in Iraq's mountains 40,000 years ago. And they had the right of self defense. But, after 1688 and the treaty of Westphalia, and the Magna Carta, And the French Revolution, and Machiavelli's Prince, and Rousseau's Social Contract, and America's Constitution we can say human beings have established civil society and the rule of law. And the rule of law gives the accused the right to defend himself with Due Process in a court of law and to be judged by his peers, and not to be shot by some Angry White Republican in quick draw fashion.

 

Yes, you are done here.

As far as comparing an assault rifle with an assault weapon, "the basic difference between an assault rifle and an assault weapon which is also a rifle as opposed to pistol or shotgun, is that an assault rifle has the capacity to fire in semiautomatic or automatic mode, an assault weapon is semiautomatic with no automatic capability." Those are your own words. And it tells us that, according to you, a semiautomatic rifle is an automatic rifle if you call it a weapon instead. Highly illogical.

It is true that a pump shotgun is just as dangerous as your so-called semiautomatic assault weapon. Your video makes that abundantly clear. But for some reason, many people are not on the warpath to ban them. Interesting.

And this:

" Assault weapons are identified by purely cosmetic features that serve no practical purpose whatsoever...but for some reason many people are highly opposed to banning them even though they admit that the features that define assault weapons have no value at all" is a not-so-clever attempt at a turn around.

Allow me to put that back into the proper perspective:

The cosmetic features do not serve any practical purpose, but for some reason, many people are highly opposed to them even though they cannot show that they make a weapon more dangerous.

 

You first. I'm married and need it more.

 

You see to think in military/NRA jargon terms. I don't care about the NRA distinction been semi / full auto / spray and pray horse shit. I told you before the US Armed Forces had the M-14 Springfield and M-1 Garand and they were semi auto and they were assault weapons. BUT, the rest of us on here are speaking in legal-civil-ordinary citizen terms. I am not going to be forced by some NRA member to limit debate to military jargon. If I want to vote to repeal the Second Amendment, I will.

 

Don't you know the right to own a gun is more important than the right to life?

 

Is there a new article in the National Journal of Police Chiefs?

 

Where do you see the analogy? Guns and knives are the tools used in the crime of intimidation and rape? I thinks some courts have ordered the snip snip operation; but, I am not sure if it had been done in the USA? Maybe as a condition for early release/parole?

 

He wasn't saying that at all and you know it too.

Another storm mountain moment

I just read something I don't agree with! So I'm going to make stuff up because I'm unhappy about it.