Kavanaugh Nomination

How 'bout he thinks the Clinton fans were after him out of revenge for the 2016 election. And his comment "What goes around comes around."Can someone with those thoughts in his head be an impartial justice on the numerous cases he'll be deciding involving partisan division? And please don't continue to pretend that there was a through investigation by the FBI in this case.

 

Every President wants their pick confirmed. Some will go to extraordinary lengths to tilt the court - FDR wanted to expand the court so he could pack it. And what party was he from? Oh he was a democrat. So the republicans have not cornered the market on delay or court packing tactics.
My biggest problem is with the character assassination that is taking place and the spectre of unproven allegations wrecking someone's life. Its a very dangerous thing.

 

Not a damn thing. The Constitution was followed.

 

You have a rather formalistic view of political reality. The legitimacy of our institutions rests on the perception of the people that they are fair. When a minority president and one party uses its slender control of a highly gerrymandered Congress to put an obviously partisan man on the Court, it risks that perception that this is a government of "we the people." It took awhile for the Court to recover its damaged reputation from the Dred Scott decision after the Civil War, during which time the (Republican) Congress was able to play house with it, changing the number of Justices from nine to eight to prevent a President from making an appointment, then bumping it up to ten to allow a president of their own persuasion to appoint two. Later, we had the New Deal, when the ultra-conservative Court was referred to a "nine Old Men" and FDR tried to pack it with people of his own persuasion, again by increasing the seats. the (Democrat) Congress didn't oblige. Fortunately, there were people back then who saw the risk to our institutions and pulled back, after previously giving a popular president everything he wanted. As someone who values our judicial institutions, I hate to see these things happen--especially at a time when the Presidency and Congress are under a similar cloud. We've survived similar episodes in the past. We'll see where this one leads. More to come after the election, if Trump tries to derail the Mueller investigation. I think things will get a lot worse before they get better.

 

In other words, you think Blasey Ford was a Democrat flunky who made up the whole thing for partisan reasons? Or do you think women who have had the experience she claims to have had should hold back when they see their attacker about to assume a position on the highest court of he land because it was so long ago and he should be forgiven his "youthful indiscretion"? Think about it. What did she gain personally from coming forward? Instead of honoring her civic heroism, you take the tack that she's a political hack.

 

You said it not me. Don't put words in my mouth. Maybe she was assaulted maybe she wasn't. I don't think we are ever going to know the truth and I have a hard time "convicting" someone based on the testimony of a "victim" that is inconsistent at best.

More than a few pages ago in this thread I said this was a classic he said she said case. And despite all the blathering on both sides that's exactly where we still are.

 

As someone who values our judicial institutions you should be pleased the rule of law has been followed and dismayed by the circus this has become.

 

Well, if we consider sexual assault and putting his dick in a Yale classmate’s face then lying under oath NOW, about how he sometimes drank too many beers, then yea...you’re probably right.

 

Unproven allegations. That's my whole point. IF he did those things he should be locked up. But to date there's been no evidence of that other than he said she said.

 

Apparently sexual assault is just a mistake of youth.

Funny. I made many mistakes as a youth. Never once shoved my pussy in anyone's face though. I must be some kind of saint then.

 

And there it is...

 

He lied under oath last week that he saw himself as a casual/social drinker of beer. The issue isn’t his drinking it’s that he lied about the depth of it.

Granted I get that the allegations weren’t corroborated but...I don’t think the FBI asked the right people the right questions. Mark Judge knows something but he’s too fragile as a cancer survivor or recovering alcoholic to press him for information

What a shit show.

 

No. I'm appalled that the letter of the law has been manipulated for partisan advantage by the slender Republican majority--starting with the decision to delay even a hearing on Garland until after the election, then in trying to rush this through before the congressional midterms, and withholding documents relating to Kavanough's pre-judicial career, and the farce of the imported prosecutor, the restrticted scope of the investigation, the bizarre process by which Senators had to access the FBI report one-by-one on a limited time frame, etc., etc. "Rule of Law", my ass. Rule by the Republicans, yes. Hey, they got the power.

 

It was 'he said, she said" as a matter of design by the Republican leadership by excluding relevant evidence. But he said the Clintons were out to get him, and "what goes around comes around." On that basis, former Justice Stevens concluded, as I do, that he's unfit for the office.

 

So who do we believe? Her simply because she is a woman? That is an extremely slippery slope that scares the crap out of me. I have been a volunteer in an organization that serves youth for the past 23 years. What happens if suddenly some kid who I pissed off 20 years ago comes out and says "he groped me?" How do I defend myself? My reputation is shot, I may no longer be able to work with kids (something I love to do). No, we can't let allegations ruin someone.

 

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@bft4evr I can't get into all this right now. I don't have the time. But, you're right, no one's life should be ruined because of allegations. But no one's allegations should be ruined because of gender either.

I'll revisit this later, but right now, I have to deal with offline life. Hey man, I like you, and I'm not trying to villify you, I just think you're missing a certain perspective.

 

Amy schumer arrested. didnt she openly admitt to raping someone?