Kavanaugh Nomination

I know what you are saying, I just don't think that it's a calculated strategy, and I definitely don't think it's a bad thing that people feel more confident about speaking up.

I don't think Ford is a psychopath or a serial killer.

It doesn't seem odd to me at all. When someone is up for a position that will give them power and influence over the future of the entire country, then knowing that he is capable of that degree of violence and that it's in his character means you have a greater obligation to do the right thing.

I am sure that the Dems are glad to have the political ammunition but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

I was gonna bring up Ted Bundy before, but felt like that would degrade into me comparing Dr. Ford to Ted Bundy. (kinda like I saw happen while I was typing this "I don't think Ford is a psychopath or a serial killer.")

But since you did. I'll add a little more. If I had a professional capacity in mental health, Psychology and brain functions, I'd have an EXCELLENT chance at being able to beat a polygraph test.

Further I know for me that I can recall in great details for SOME events surrounding my experience, and with no great detail others. You're brain processes things in different ways during a trauma that you believe is a threat to your fight or flight instincts. It doesn't make me or Dr Ford a liar or lacking credibility that we can't answer all the questions that may be asked of me by people that want to dig into dark places I may not have visited in my mind for years.

What's problematic for me is, despite how much I feel Dr Ford is totally credible, I think she chose a poor way to get her story out. When and if and how we tell our story is one THE MOST difficult things a victim faces. The common problem all victims face is our credibility. And the same questions as to why we did this this way or that way. I get all that believe me. Unfortunately the fact that Dr Ford aligns herself with the political party that is opposing someone she is accusing is a problem. The fact that there appears all sorts of maneuvering that took place by getting attorneys that are known Clinton connections and current Anti Trump agenda's doesn't help her. And it gives credibility to the claim Kavenaugh makes that its a revenge from Clinton and a smear campaign against him. Or perhaps Dr. Ford didn't look into which attorneys she got, and simply is getting handled like a lamb to slaughter by Feinstein and Co. It doesn't help that Ford began teaching at Stanford in 1988, and Booker attended Stanford in 1991 and 1992. It looks suspicious. Particularly if an investigation shows a more significant connection to them that they may wish to admit. I had a red flag when it was Booker that hand carried her a cup of coffee at the hearings. Booker a known perpetrator of groping and a supposed victim of groping socializing at the hearing doesn't sit well with me.

For me as a victim myself, I can give Dr Ford a more supportive role as a fellow victim if she could be cleared of these concerns for me. My heart wants to recognize the bravery she projects in doing this. My head that sees the dirty world that politics has become and weaponizing that occurs in sexual accusations, now in our country, makes me proceed in the reality of the world we live in.

I would not put it past the Dems to be fabricating all of this! Nor do I put it past the Reps to try and hide as much as they may know about Kavenaugh. But that has nothing to do with victims of sexual assaults.

Had 6 not stepped in and share the same concerns, I wouldn't have said any of this here. Part of what victims think is that they are alone in their circumstances and thoughts. And we already know the beat down the left would give any victim that still thinks an accused perpetrator, they conveniently happen to be opposing at the time, has some rights to defend themselves against accusations made against them.

 

Yeah I could tell by your evasiveness.

So for you its OK if they violate some part of their required rules of conduct as long as its not too many and they apologize for it when they do. And if you happen to agree with their violation content its OK. As you put it. "And it seems she's right". So lets overlook the violation.

And yet she does it again. Ruth Bader Ginsburg Slams Senate Hearings As A 'Highly Partisan Show' | HuffPost

So her apology seems a little hollow now. Perhaps her integrity should now come into question. But i'm sure since you agree with her violation content we can invalidate the fact that she has corrupted the standard more than once. You'd make a fantastic politician!

Perhaps Kavenaugh will issue an apology. That would clear your concerns I'm sure. (sarcasm). Or perhaps Kavenaugh is right. Man then you'd really have a problem sorting this out in your alternate moral world.

I think we just have different moral compasses. Which is really where this country is at in general.

Do I think Kavenaugh got angry? You bet I do. He isn't a SCOTUS judge. He is not as yet bound by the Code Of Conduct Ginsberg is. That she has violated now more than once.

I don't think we can expect any judge to not be human. Or to think alike. If they all thought alike, we'd not need 9 of them and we wouldn't need confirmation hearings. There would be no arguments to how laws are to be interpreted.

 

A lot of people are drunken fools in college. Certainly you know that. Its pretty standard fare and part of growing up. The fact that he defends it they way he does now makes me suspect its still a current part of his life. But so are how many of those judging him?

 

Yeah the Dems did. Right before our eyes (Flake and Coons on live TV). And re-confirmed over the weekend in an 60 Minutes interview. 2 people are responsible for that deal. Flake and Coons. They were the only ones bright enough to figure out how to find compromise. Neither of those 2 are conflicted over the way its proceeding. As was confirmed in the latest interview I saw less than 18 hours ago now.

If that leads to people you don't want it to, or doesn't lead it to people that you hope it does. Oh well. They shouldn't have made the deal then.

Show me where the FBI is the source of making a claim that they are broadcasting to the President or anyone else what they are doing that excludes the Democrats.

 

Now his buddies from Yale are coming out saying he was a “belligerent drunk” etc etc etc

Kavanaugh strikes me as he doesn’t want to fall from grace in his wife’s and kids’ eyes but it’s a little late. Where he went wrong is not admitting he drank a lot, to excess. Lying under oath is what likely will cost him, now.

I get the sense that he never shared all this with his wife, which is probably why she is crying in the media. I think that this is a horrible thing for both parties, to be assaulted and to be accused of assault but don’t lie about something as insignificant as your drinking days in high school and college. No one is buying that you were busy studying, going to church and keeping your calendar up to date.

 

Again I heard him answer under oath that he drank to excess while in school. You can't expect him to recall how many etc from 35 years ago. And the aspect that will be problematic is the fact that if he did experience black outs, he would not know what happened during those times. Therefore he wouldn't be lying if he simply didn't know. If he is the heavy drinker we are assuming, I doubt his wife doesn't know about it.

If he were a left leaning judge appointee that was revealed to have a drinking problem, the left would demand that he be given counseling and a return to the job at hand. He isn't. So they will demand he be ruined. Heavy drinking/Alcoholics are pretty common in Washington. To judge a judge for drinking is going to open up a can of worms for those judging him. If he isn't qualified to serve, neither would they be. *sigh*. Politics.

And though we may question that calendar, and his story, it does corroborate his testimony and his track through school as he accomplished his path. That actually is better than what Dr Ford can offer anyone at this point.

Belligerent drunks are a pretty common occurrence in our world. There is miles of separation between being a belligerent drunk and they attack women.

 

It's really great how you have all of these little lies on hand to make yourself feel better when your favorite political team loses a point.

 

Just going to leave this here..

 

Freaking hilarious.

 

Kavanaugh is the definition of a piss ant. Whatever happened to common sense? You don't need to know that he's a dumbass fratboy. Just look in the little pussy's eyes.

 

What little lies would you be suggesting there Sparky?

 

I bring up Ted Bundy only because liars have been known to pass polygraphs.

I do believe that Ford has actually experienced sexual assault and rape before. Just not by Kavanaugh.

 

So you think she was calculating her way out of the polygraph during the polygraph to produce a lie that many would perceive as the truth because she's that cunning?

Kavanaugh is a fucking rapist moron. Just look at him. It's obvious. She's not lying. She's not so fucking invested in his demise that she's foiling the polygraph machines.

 

YEP! And further. She may believe it was him and it wasn't. So she would pass when asked who did it. She could believe it was him and therefore not be lying.