Houston Tx School Shooting

These gun controls wouldn't be effective for some time to come.

Protecting students and other public places with metal detectors would be a quick start.

 

It's amazing to me that I can walk into just about any school in the US and make substantial progress before anyone asks who the hell I am. If I wear a suit, I double this time frame. If I'm carrying something academic-looking, like a globe, a plastic medical skeleton or a box of computer parts, I can probably have the run of the place.

What I don't get is why the school staff aren't concerned with saving their own lives. Seems like they'd welcome a tall fence, key card access and armed guards to keep their own asses safe. And they could demand it under the tried and true "it's for the children" mantra used to justify so many other things they do.

Theme parks have better security. Malls have slightly better security. The lack of security in schools makes me wonder who could possibly benefit from it.

 

I don't think it's calculated, the lack of security in schools, it's just being met with passive aggressiveness, for some reason. 90 days since the horrific Parkland shooting, and nothing has changed. You're right, you could probably walk into any school USA, and not be questioned. It's sad.

 

I didn't discounted the lives lost in mass shootings. I discounted the media's definition of school shooting when they include suicides in empty parking lots. The lives are tragic, the number of school shootings however is overblown.

Statistically speaking, we arent the only ones.

 

And what happens when during one of these random checks into your private, sovereign space, the "investigator" smells smoke from the joint you just put out?

 

No. Again, remember when we had the Parkland shooting the media said we had 18 shootings up to that point this year? Well, 10 of those "school shootings" included a suicide in an empty parking lot, accidental discharges, and some cases nobody was even hurt. Unless you provide evidence for the 99 school shootings this year, I'm skeptical that the number is that high.

 

Yeah, let's look at these "mass school shootings:

1) A man committed suicide using a gun in an elementary school parking lot when the school was closed and there were no children present in Clinton County, Mich., on Jan. 3.

2) Shots were fired at New Start High School near Burien, Wash., on Jan. 4. No one was hurt or injured, and no suspects were apprehended.

*3) A 32-year-old man shot a pellet gun at a school bus, shattering a window, in Forest City, Iowa, on Jan. 6. No injuries were reported, and the suspect was apprehended.

4) A Grayson College student confused a real gun with a training gun and accidentally fired a bullet into a wall on Jan. 10. No injuries were reported.

5) A 14-year-old seventh-grade student shot and killed himself inside the bathroom of Coronado Elementary School in Cochise County, Ariz., on Jan. 10.

6) Gunshots were fired at a campus building at Cal State San Bernardino on Jan. 10. No injuries were reported.

7) Two people in a car exchanged gunfire at a Wiley College dorm parking lot on Jan. 15. No deaths or injuries were reported and no suspects were arrested, however, one bullet was fired into a dorm room with three female students inside.

8) A Winston-Salem State University football player was shot and killed at a sorority party following an argument in Winston-Salem, N.C., on Jan. 20.

9) A 16-year-old male student shot a 15-year-old female student in the cafeteria at Italy High School in Italy, Texas, on Jan. 22. While the victim was injured, she was expected to make a full recovery. The shooter was arrested and charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. This one we would probably all refer to as a proper "school shooting."

10) An unknown assailant in a pickup truck drove by the NET Charter High School in Gentilly, La., and shot at a group of students on Jan. 22. A 14-year-old boy was initially thought to have suffered a gunshot graze, but it turned out to be an abrasion.

11) A 15-year-old male student shot and killed two students and wounded 18 others at Marshall County High School in Benton, Ky., on Jan. 23. The shooter was apprehended.

12) A 16-year-old student fired a gun at another 16-year-old student during an altercation at Murphy High School in Mobile, Ala., on Jan. 25. No injuries were reported and the suspect was taken into custody.

13) Shots were fired in the parking lot during an altercation between two nonstudents during a basketball at Dearborn High School in Dearborn, Mich., on Jan. 26. No injuries were reported, and no suspects were arrested.

14) A 32-year-old man was shot and killed in the parking lot outside Lincoln High School in Philadelphia, Penn., on Jan. 31 during what police believed to be an altercation between students from rival schools. No suspects were arrested.

15) A 12-year-old female student accidentally fired a real gun thinking it was a fake gun. Four students were injured, including one who suffered a gunshot wound to the head, at Sal Castro Middle School in Los Angeles on Feb. 1. The 12-year-old girl was taken into custody.

16) A teenage boy was shot in the chest and nearly killed by another student who conspired with the boy's ex-girlfriend in the parking lot of Oxon Hill High School in Oxon Hill, Md., on Feb. 5. The suspect was taken into custody and charged with attempted murder.

17) A third-grade student pulled the trigger of a police officer's holstered weapon at the Harmony Learning Center in Maplewood, Minn., on Feb. 5. No injuries were reported.

18) A 17-year-old student was arrested after firing a gun into the floor of a classroom of Metropolitan High School in the Bronx, N.Y., on Feb. 8.

19) The shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., on Wednesday that left 17 dead.
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You can always spot the hysteria-driven hotheads. They simply buy into whatever the propagandists tell them without so much as a Google search to find out if what they're repeating is accurate.

 

I havent heard of this being an issue in Australia and frankly I dont really care. And I say this as someone who doesnt live in a legal state and who has a gun and cannabis in my home at all times (neither are mine). My partner could figure out precautions to take and so could everyone else. Smoke outside, use a vape pen, edibles, whatever. Most states have decriminalized marijuana anyways. Even in my backwards state simple possession is just a fine now.

Maybe to avoid an abuse of power the inspectors could be civilians rather than law enforcement, therefore they would have no power to do anything except write tickets for improper storage

 

Sure, I could rearrange things in my own home in a way that would hide my illegal activity from these random home inspectors . . . Sure.

Could you refer me to information concerning these surprise inspections in Australia?

 

Often times, you'll find a school with 3 sets of doors that have security buzz-openers.

What I've found is that one of those doors is not locked. They have security cameras on the doors and a sign saying you "must" sign in at the office.

It would be more secure if they locked all three doors and checked the camera before allowing entrance.

 

It's as amazing as schools and teachers who blame parents for the lack of results in the classroom. Which makes fertile ground for the likes of Beverly Hall. Education should be a sacred trust where parents and society can rest assured. Instead, it's a political minefield where kids pay the price in the form of extorted grading.

 

Exactly, we're "on our honor" to stop by the office and sign in. Ludicrous.

 

Yup, it's a system set up to fail over and over again.

 

They arent always surprise inspections anyways

But I think the minor inconvenience of having to use a vape or smoke on the opposite side of your house from where your guns are stored pales in comparison to the fact that 10 children just died because some idiot gun owner couldnt secure his guns.

And no i'm not going to do your own research for you. You should honestly have a basic understanding of gun control measures in other countries anyways, given how much time you've spent arguing against them

 

Yeah, some idiot gun owner didn't secure his guns. If he went to jail, he wouldn't be a threat anymore. Instead, you want me to be treated as if I were the idiot.

And I will assume you couldn't find any information concerning Australia's surprise home inspections. You brought it up. I'm just asking you to verify it.

And I have not argued against gun control measures. As I've said before, I'm not against background checks. But I am against the confiscation of all guns that hold more than six rounds.

 

These ideas are great, but won’t stop another near term shooting at schools. We are still looking at what happened in Texas as a gun control issue. It’s not. The father failed to follow the law but we still have the problem of someone being able to walk into a school with a gun, without being detected. That’s the problem that needs the quicker fix. Guns aren’t going away, neither are sociopaths. So, what should be done to protect US schools within the next 60 days?

If I had kids, they wouldn’t be returning to school on Monday or anytime, until preventative measures are in place to keep schools safe.

 

Oh it’s fine then. If only 9 groups of kids were murdered at school by all means keep your lil fetish’s toy

 

Federal funding for every school and if that means raising taxes, then so be it. If it can be done at airports, it can be done at schools.