Diversity is our strength?

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  1. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    See, that's what I think is BS. If we aren't vocal about oppression nothing will ever ever be done about it. We have to accept that these people are victims. And we do, to some extent. But learning what to do about it is an entirely different thing.
     
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  2. Eric!

    Eric! Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't even think it's even worth knowing. All this "read between the lines" and "figure it out" bullshit is another way of being evasive to display how some people truly are. What you said in your last few entries was right on the mark. There are people who shirk other people's success and are hateful because they have nothing, and have nothing to offer. All they do is bring toxicity, and desire for everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
     
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  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    No, 6-eyed has a very very valid point

    Japan had the crap bombed out of them in world war 2, and I am not just talking about the nuclear bombs, how did they bounce back so quickly?

    China where it is now, soon to be running the world, if not already

    Certain aspects of a culture lead to a particular work ethic

    You dont get anywhere by whinging

    Most asian countries, a crazy workaholic culture, xenophobic, dont give a shit about immigration or minorities


    .....and yet, if it keeps going to way it has been over the last 50 years in 100 years it wont matter anyway, Asia will run the world, most western countries are already welfare states, we can sit around and whine why everyone doesnt do stuff for us
     
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  4. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Occupation and reconstruction by the US and other Allied nations
     
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  5. NotMyRealName

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    Well since we are all here in this country together we have the occupation part covered. We have rebuilt how many cities that have been burned down by riots (as bad as being bombed in a war)?

    Yes we showed Japan and Germany how to use our countries skills to manufacture etc. And then we left. How'd they do since then?
     
  6. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Having a point about work ethic is one thing, but we're not propagating a victim mindset by offering a certain number of positions to women and people of color. And if anything, the media tends to portray minorities in a negative light anyway, not lending itself to the victimized status that racial minorities have earned by no fault of their own.

    I feel we have a long way to go before we can proudly say that we have emerged from the threat of a racial divide that exists in America. And of course it's very different in different parts of the world. I'm not familiar with Australian history so I don't know, but were there colonists that employed slaves? Here there certainly were! And it has made us more inclined to prejudice as a definitive result.

    If you ask me being preferential to one race is a huge problem and, here's the kicker, it isn't going away by itself. We have to enact policies like affirmative action.
     
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  7. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Affirmative action has been around long enough that they've been able to study the long-term effects of such a policy, and what we're seeing is that it's working. For example, minorities who have come from low-income families--families who never sent anyone to college--benefitted from certain policies in the 1970s, and now they are educated and middle class, as are their children and grandchildren. Whole generations of kids who could have been born into poverty and potentially turn to crime, are suddenly middle class and suburban.

    Affirmative action works. I think the opposition comes because it highlights the white privilege issue. When people of color are given the same opportunities as white people, they succeed. Ergo, it proves both institutionalized racism and white privilege. And having those things proven facts makes some people very nervous.
     
  8. NotMyRealName

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    Key word. The SAME.

    Affrimitive Action is not the SAME treatment. It's preferential treatment by design.
     
  9. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    ^^ See what I mean?

    Very nervous.
     
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  10. NotMyRealName

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    Not at all nervous. Just disagreeing about the definition of Affirmative Action means. I am all for blacks being given equal opportunities.
     
  11. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    They have done studies where two resumes are submitted to the same company. When it's a white male name they get many calls back. When it is an African name or a women's they get less. Same qualification so what is the difference? It is "not being a good fit" as human resources would call it. There is something about you that HR thinks will be trouble for the company.

    With women it can be as simple as thinking she will have kids and want time off. With an African man it could get into racism. You have a biases that he will not work as hard. Current politics is all the evidence I need that white America still has something going on it needs to address.
     
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  12. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, Diversity is our greatest strength but there are some who beg to differ.....


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  13. Eric!

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    What a dumbass
     
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  14. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I gave you so much to try and pick apart in my last post, and you only take my first line? Pitiful.

    Victimhood is a state of mind. You can choose to be a victim who wallows in your dispair, or a fighter who persists. Asian Americans should be "victims" according to your definition of the word. Yet they're a racial subgroup that is doing better than whitey.

    Median household income by race or ethnic group 2016 | Statistic

    And no, it's not because of Affirmative Action either. In fact, Asian students are now required to score HIGHER than their white counterparts on SAT scores to pass the exams. This is because these AA programs racially profile ALL Asians as more studious and hard working than everyone else. You can't get much more racist than that.

    Where the hell are yours and your sociology professor's liberal outrage over this?
     
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  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Thats what happens when Soros funds extremest groups that tear cities to rubble, making life a living hell for those who are already struggling. Getting people dependent on the state is how lots of politicians stay in power.

     
  16. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Interesting you feel you can comment on other people's culture and race while being offended that anyone not like you would do the same.

    You as a white man have no idea what they go through. Are you not acting like a "victim" with many of your posts here? The system is out to get you for who are right? The liberal system. But you are a white conservative male the true victim of society because no one gives you special treatment.
     
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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    But in a time frame of 100 years, or even 500 years, is it going to do anything, make things better over all

    Especially relative to places like China, Japan, Singapore as well. Places with a strong cultural work ethic where you dont really hear about any of this racial or gender affirmative action

    Its not just about gender or race but also prescription meds, over diagnozed anxiety disorders, even over eating

    You hear this kind of stuff coming from Europe and the US, nit the asian countries.

    Is what we are headed for in the west really going to be 1/4 of the population hooked on painkillers, everyone has a bloody anxiety disorder so that everything wrong with their life is someone elses fault, 2/3 of the population too fat to work properly, pretending affirmative action works even though there are a multitude of ways around it and their will still be twice as many blacks and hispanics in prison in 50 years, 100 million in the US on welfare

    In the meantime China ends up owning, controlling more and in 50 years instead of man made islands near the phillipines it will be man made islands off the coast of florida, with the US not being able to do anything about it becuase they are spending too much on welfare


    Even just with the race thing, looking from the outside it seems kind of bizarre, Black vs White in the US, none of you seem to really give a shit about hispanics or the 100 other racial minorities. Its harder to get a job as a black guy?, How about Indonesian Americans or Azbekistani americans, any one have a clue?
     
  18. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, the school doesn't know what to do with this kid
     
  19. Eric!

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    Hell Thats easy, suspend or expell.
     
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  20. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    But did the girl accept his prom invite??
     

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