After the eighth school shooting in seven weeks – some gun control proposals

I'm not pissed at you. I was just using the same tone and words as Balbus, hoping that someone would take offense and call me on it. Glad you recognize them for what they are.

Anyway, my point is that the anti-gun fanatics recognize their powerlessness to get the authorities to do their bidding, and are venting their frustration on anyone who believes they have a right to own a gun. It isn't enough for Meagain to state his proposals. He needs to state the means by which to enact them. Otherwise, he's just crying in the wrong direction.

 

I already said why youre wrong and you continue to focus on gun grabbing solely over any other issue.

 

Why is your unsupported assertion "end of story"?

 

We're not at odds about this. But they're simply not the focus of the thread topic. It has however been (ab)used a lot to render the debate about improving gun control useless, which is sad and dubious.

 

You call it gun grabbing. I am for experimenting with tighter gun control. If most can be done with proper enforcement alone i'm all for it. You portray it differently because you care more about gun control being the same, than about decreasing innocent deaths.

 

I don't think anyone you've been talking with here is completely anti-gun/an anti gun fanatic, except maybe Kerri.

Most frustration from pro gun control folks came from the refusal of certain anti gun control folks to partake seriously in the discussion. Of which several sounded really frustrated themselves merely because we dare to discuss the topic of improving gun control. Which really is not about carrying out a political agenda, but about the retarded loss of life through a combination of mentally disturbed citizens and their easy access to certain kind of guns.

 

How do you think the mental health issue should be addressed?

Would you support increased public funding to ensure the uninsured have access to mental healthcare?

 

I'm not ignorant to start with.

 

Then you better tell me what question I'm evading? If I go back far enough I find this post from you: "But you seemed to imply that this was a distinct group of people that was linked to high crime areas so again are the people you say are more murderous genetically different than other human beings genetically disposed to be more murderous?

Since I never implied it, I didn't venture into why you'd ask it of me. ME seeming to imply....is YOUR decision to put that context in as you chose to do.

I am not a geneticist. I have never proposed that as an outcome for discussion. The only one that brought that up repeatedly ain't me. Maybe we can find studies that suggest there is a genetic link found when they study these animals. But first we need to have a starting point as to what trash is.

 

Gosh......you won't last very long with that attitude around here. . If you don't agree with them, by virtue of their logic, you must be ignorant. Ya gotta keep up.

 

That's the great part. No matter how ignorant Balbus thinks I am, I have a real say so on USA issues and he doesn't.

 

Shouldn't matter in this conversation. Everybody with some insight or an opinion can add substance. Or posts void of any substance.
Curiously most posts void of on topic substance came from people from the USA with an opinion on other people. Like: how silly they express their foreign opinion and insight in this thread on american gun control (another example that was seriously used multiple times is: everyone arguing for improved gun control is anti-gun and therefor not worth listening to).
The great part is; in the end its about the content Not where someone is from, or how someone portrays it that their posts matter more, or that perceived ignorance is no issue because wether someone is ignorant or not, at least they have a real say on the matter

 

You can just ignore them. Even though they are smarter than all of us. They may think what we think is trash, they think are fine upstanding citizens that simply lack social support. Cuz people are the same everywhere.

 

You are playing the victimized game now. Anything on topic to add? Or are you the one who should be ignored

 

All youre trying to do is set up a scenario that a conservative would typically disagree with.

 

It doesn't matter in this, or any other, forum discussion, and I didn't say it did.

The say so in USA issues that I was referring to is my status as a registered voter in the United States Of America. That's a real say so on our issues, not this forum debate. This makes no real difference at all.

I wouldn't be looking at this thread today if not for the reported thread content.

 

I would support taking funding away from programs that it has brought no value to America and shift it to mental health access. There's billions available in wasted tax dollars we can re-allocate.
I would support keeping those flagged as mentally questionable from having guns until such time as they are determined to be fit or not.
I would support making sure if they were financially unable to buy their mental health that they get it provided free of charge.
I would support more public awareness and education on how to identify and deal with mental heath.
I would support that if that mental illness is found to be a result of legally prescribed mind altering drugs that the medical staff be brought up for investigation. If it was due to illict or illegal use of drugs, on the part of the mentally ill person, that the mental health be administered as part of a jail sentence.
I would support strong retributions for any watchdog agencies that didn't do their jobs, losing those jobs and be fired without pay and possibly jail time if found to be negligent.

 

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She's asking you a question, and added one scenario which you could have criticized, or ignored altogether. Instead you go this route of applying a motive on her so you can skip a meaningful response. There is absolutely no reason for this if you care about seriously adressing the mental health issue. Earlier you would have stated pro gun control folks only want to talk about gun control, and no other solutions. Now you're explicitly asked. It's all you dude.

 

I would say take away the welfare that incentivizes single black mothers to have as many kids as they want with as many daddies as they want and live in a perpetual state of poverty.

 

I got that just fine and stand by my remark.