We've covered School shootings. Now lets tackle Chicago.

So let's compare your example of Massachusetts and I'd guess Boston to Chicago. Gun laws are restrictive like Chicago. Yet low crime rate. What else is the same and different between these examples? We know they are both also Democrat run. So what else?

 

Excuse me but could someone in the gun lobby please at least try and form a coherent argument against prudent gun control?

 

I am not "the gun lobby", but as I see it, there's prudent gun control in place. It needs to be followed and strictly enforced.

 

LOL – I asked for a coherent argument not the same old gun lobbyist rhetoric

 

Take the blinders off your eyes and the cotton out your ears.

Kennesaw Ga has mandatory gun ownership on the books and even though its not enforced it keeps the community safer. Opposite effect of gun control laws.

 

We've agreed that these two examples have similar gun control laws. So there is no gun control argument at work here. One has a high crime rate, one doesn't. What can we attribute that too?

 

A long drawn out yawn – ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The gun lobbyist’s claims about Kennesaw have been covered many times here and they don’t really stand up well to scrutiny - have you actually got anything of substance?

 

I was referring to Massachusetts as was chosen by another poster. Thinking Boston vs Chicago.

 

Again can you construct a coherent argument, what are you on about?

Boston still has a Homicide rate of 5.7 per 100,000 slightly higher than the US rate of 5.1 (the London rate is 1.6) now compare that with other countries

England and Wales - 1.03

France : 1.2

Germany 0.8

Switzerland 0.57

Gun related homicides per 100,000

US 2011: 3.6

England and Wales: 0.06

France - 0.22

Germany - 0.2

Switzerland 0.16

 

That question would call for more informed analysis than I could do without further research. The first thing I'd look at would be policing practices and city and state government.
Crime Rate Comparison: Boston Vs. Chicago
Here's a comparison between Chicago and New York City, which may get at the same issue. https://nypost.com/2016/11/14/why-crime-in-chicago-soars-while-new-york-is-safer-than-ever/

 

How is the gun law in Kennesaw enforced anyways, do they go door to door and check to make sure everyone has a gun once a year?

Or is it likely that it isnt enforced at all and therefore unlikely that every citizen actually owns a gun?

 

Psshhh statistics...you mean that pesky liberal agenda? It's much better to rely on anecdotal evidence or sources like the Gateway Pundit. At least that's what i've learned during my time spent on HF

 

Re Boston. As I recall, Mass. has the most draconian laws re crimes committed with guns. Differences in policies at the state level might be worth looking into.

 

I used to live near kennesaw. I can tell you whatever statistical data youre looking at doesnt paint the whole picture.

 

The latter.

But thats the beauty of it.

Its not enforced and it still works. Thats the opposite of gun control laws that are enforced and dont work.

 

And its not every citizen. Its every household. Know your facts.

 

Lol Weren't you one of the people agreeing that gun control laws don't need to change because the only reason they're not working is because they're NOT properly enforced.

 

You should learn to express yourself more clearly. There are so many negative words in that I had to read it about 5 times and it still doesnt make sense.

What I am saying is that Kennesaws mandatory gun ownership law is not necessarily enforced, but it still works, and thats the beauty of it.

 

I suppose you have to read it some more times then :-D