Vaccinations

kerri said it politely

I will not....if you are against vaccines you are a fucking idiot and I will take every opportunity I can to point out your idiocy in every thread on this website

that's a promise....couple fucking noob assholes wont believe the evidence and just believe other fucking quacks........david that's you....a fuckin' quack

 

take a risk with your own fucking life and stop preaching your garbage.....you want people tpo get sick because you are so ignorant?....stf

 

Vaccination can prevent many diseases. Do some research on vaccines and diseases if you are not comfortable with vaccinating.

 

That may be your and others opinion that it's "garbage" but that is not shared by the opinion of many others. I tried to be fair giving all points of views in my post but yours is obviously one sided!! You want people to get sick for lack of information? They don't include the side effects WITH meds that is prescribed for no reason as I feel sure big pharma would rather leave out that information. But as to what I preach or don't preach as long as it does not violate the rules of this board I think we are all entitled to give our opinions!

 

There is always risks with meds, but you have to way up the benefits more..

Let's look back at the world before immunisation, it's a far better place now!

I can't take penicillin, it could potentially kill me, but I can't deny the amount of people it's helped, I take antibiotics every day of my life, have and will till I die..

Vaccinations contain antibiotics, and other things, but they work, they stop people dieing from infections, like TB.. look at 3rd world countries where they have no vaccinations, look at our countries before vaccinations.. you can't say it doesn't work.

Look at countries where they treat with voodoo and other holistic meds... Make a comparison, it's obvious which works..

 

we are talking about vaccinations not meds........meds is a catch all label could fucking mean anything.......you are dead wrong about vaccinations....that opinion is NOT widely shared and believed as you say....your numbers are dwindling to the point when we find one of you we put you on the national news

like i said....i don't want your misguided beliefs to be shared to someone with a child who then doesn't vaccinate the kid and the kid dies

vaccinate you dam kids....don't give a fuck if you choose otherwise for yourself

find one single reputable doctor who says otherwise in north America...it wont happen

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If meds safely help someone that's great! If natural remedies safely help someone that's great, too! But obviously too many people want to emphasize their negative opinions about natural remedies with the bottom line is no matter how you look at it many (not saying all!!) natural remedies are safer than meds are. They don't help everyone but neither does meds help everyone, either.

 

I responded with an over all opinion of what was written about Dr. Mercola. You read way too much into what I posted. I NEVER said I didn't believe in any vaccinations! I also never said I wouldn't vaccinate children!! You should make sure you respond accordingly to what someone writes. That is not to say I agree with all of the vaccinations. I would never say vaccinations are completely safe, either. There has been some people harmed by vaccinations and that is a fact. too. I actually would leave it up to someone to do their own research, listen to both sides risk and benefit and then decide for their own self. I have never got the flu vaccination and haven't had the flu in 30 years! Some people take that vaccination and then get the flu. So it's not a one size fits all when it comes to meds or vaccinations!

 

What damage has been done with vaccinations that hasn't been discounted?

It's a myth that you get flu from the flu vaccination,. Proved!

Have you ever seen anyone with Tb cured with holistic meds? Have you seen anyone with tb?

Have you seen a child with whooping cough?

Have you seen a child become deaf with measles?

Have you seen anyone die with diphtheria?

Have you seen anyone maimed by polio?


Etc etc...

Probably not in your life time..

Holistic meds do NOT cure any of these..

You ever seen anyone survive septicemia without antibiotics? That's probably the only thing you have seen in your life time, ok I don't know your age, but I bet in right!

 

I applaud your efforts of countering her advice to other parents, but personally can respect it when a well informed parent chooses to not vaccinate their own. Their choice. It's like when a vegan parent raises her kid vegan. I don't applaud it at all (you can often see the kids growth is falling behind), but hey. How sad it may sound: the rest can learn from it.
In the case of vaccinations: some are easier skipped than others. Its not a guarantee for becoming unhealthy. As has been pointed out by Meliai they also benefit from the majority that does get vaccinated.
What I find hard to respect is people with a brain defending dr. Mercola and consorts...

 

He seems a money grabbing fraud to me.

Thanks for emphasizing

Duly noted!

I've seen the same, so yes its a valid example. The flu is only deadly to real weak people though. Its a much easier choice to skip than several other vaccinations

 

Polio was crippling people all over the UK in the 1950s and vaccination seemed to bring it to a halt.
However I was horrified when reading your earlier post on the number of vaccines used in the US. It seems just like the current problem with the misuse of antibiotics today.

 

she isn't well informed....she is ill informed

 

for fuck sakes......take the measles vaccine....kid doesn't get it and other kids can die.....it has already happenned

 

I was talking in general there. But anyway, to a big extent i follow the principle 'their kid, their choice'. Wether it is homeschooling, forcing a vegan diet on them, denying them trick or treat or even not giving them certain vaccinations.

 

Dr. Mercola does not seem money grabbing to me! That could be said about a lot of politicians, doctors, Major Corporations, Big Pharma and the list goes on. He sincerely comes down on the side that he thinks is correct. I don't agree with Dr, Mercola on everything! Whereas a lot of people fall definitely on one side or the other. As I wrote a lot of doctors, vets, scientists, nutritionists, disagree with each other. That is why it's good to research all information on both sides to make an informed choice which does not always mean it was the right choice but it could mean it was the right choice for that person. One person smokes and lives to be a 100 but that doesn't mean smoking isn't harmful while another dies young from it. The same thing just does not work for everyone and I guess whatever works for someone some of those people think that is how it is for everyone.

You are welcome for emphasizing

 

Very true. so called statistics can be very misleading, but people just take them at face value.
Crime statistics are very similar and vary depending on how the police area obtain them. Computers are the worst enemy, since reported crime can include all the idiot calls and false alarms.
The latest paranoia on knife crime and stop and search is a good example. People don't want youngsters carrying knives, but are up in arms when their children are stopped ans searched. In order to pacify the figures, officers are required to arrest people for the smallest thing and then de-arrest them after a chat. A pointless waste of time. Our daughter would rather stop a young lad who has just taken to hanging around with his mates, than have to meet him for the first time when he is bleeding to death at the side of the road and all his so called mates have run for the hills

 

You need to get off the antibiotics. After the first coarse they cease to protect you and can leave you wide open to infection without a medical cure. More and more intensive care doctors are having to use IV antibiotics just to save a persons life after they have needlessly exhausted all the oral options for the wrong reasons. Antibiotics kill bacteria, including those in your stomach that are vital for digestion. They often cause diarrhea and can also lead to IBS. syndrome.

 

There are those of us that have no choice, just normal stagnant water can cause real problems..

If I could not take my biotics, believe me, I wouldnt!

Like I've said in other threads, if you don't have all knowledge, then what you do have, is pretty useless..

 

Clearly yours is unusual case. Although antibiotics kill bacteria, your immunity is suffering as well as your digestion. My main worry with your situation is being open to leigionella which can be fatal if it attacks your lungs.
Are you talking about marshland, or concerned about your drinking water. Marshland problems are often transmitted by flying insects, rather than airborne bacteria.