The gay wedding cake.

Meanwhile the Supreme Court declined last week to hear a workplace discrimination case where a lesbian claims she was harrassed at work and fired from her job due to her sexual orientation

I would much rather see that one tried by the Supreme Court, workplace discrimination seems more important in the grand scheme of things as that affects people's livelihoods

 

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For the record I've deleted my 2nd rant as it was unfair of me victimise someone with good intentions.

 

it prefers sex with other cakes instead of with pies.

 

I guess a Pedo cake likes cupcakes.

 

I can't say how much I agree with Irmi...like basically screw him and that bakery...go to another damn bakery...get out the word don't go there or whatever but that's just saying that maybe you'd want the word to get out... However!

^^^This. This what I'm interested in - how homophobic this bright new court is...or isn't

but I think they will be and I hope I'm wrong.

 

Well, actually, thats a pretty cool looking cake, so in that instant gay means style

I have seen some dumb wedding cakes in my time

Also, is that your daughter or her missus in the white dress, whats the tatt? Tattoo looks cool too, and I almost always hate tatts

 

Exactly

 

Thats a bit of a jump isnt it?, you go from what she said to - "so that makes you right about any issue that involves homosexuality" I dont see anywhere where she said something like that. She basically said she hates pretenders telling her how she should think.

Everyone always has some personal motivation for doing something, thats not so hard to understand is it?. You mentioned caring about violations of constitutional rights, for you, is that actually caring about the rights being violated for whichever group or the slippery slope that ends up chipping away until we get to rights stripped away that directly affect you?

 

That is my daughter is the white dress. That tattoo is a collage of an owl, an hour glass, a ball of yarn and knitting needles, and the word "Mom". She has at least a dozen tattoos.

 

I get what you're saying...but I also see what Irmi is saying.

I say "out the baker man" for being homophobic...and then go to another damn baker since there are probably dozens if not hundreds to choose from.

Let the Supreme Court decide on something that has more significance than a dang cake because I personally think they will use this one little (silly to me) thing and say they have come up with an "important" opinion and will then skip on over something of true importance...just as I indicated before - the suit the Supreme Court refused to listen to regarding the lesbian that was being harassed at work because of her sexuality.

They are going to use this cake thing and pretend they have done some special and significant decision making while ignoring truly important issues.

 

This is an interesting topic to me. I totally agree with everything you said and I’m 100% in support of calling out the bigotry and absolutely not using their services. The legal question is does a private business have a right to be bigoted

 

Here's my two cents:

Big government, back off; free market, do your thing.

As most of us know, this is not the first time this type of thing has happened. This is not the first bakery to deny a wedding cake to a gay couple. And it won't be the last. However, when this happens, something amazing results. Some of these bakeries have been boycotted by the communities they serve--by both straight and gay people--for their actions. See, the First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion and freedom of speech from government punishment. It does not mean there are zero consequences for one's behavior.

A few years ago, a bakery in--Oregon? Indiana? I can't keep track of them all--denied service to a homosexual couple and thought they had scored some kind of moral victory. A year later, they had a Go Fund Me page set up to raise money to keep their bakery open, and were on the local news crying about how they can't feed their kids anymore because their own community boycotted them. They eventually had to close their business.

That's how it should happen: let businesses run their establishments the way they see fit. And when they upset their clientele and lose business, then, hey, baby--that's capitalism. Let the free market weed these people out--let We the People decide who should and should not be serving us cake. These fines and court hearings are just a sideshow. All this does is widen the divide between the straight and gay communities. It makes us look like crybabies and vilifies a mostly compassionate heterosexual community.

Call out their bigotry for what it is if you must, but then, quietly move on to another bakery. The American people, I believe, will ultimately side on the side of justice. They will champion the underdog. We don't need government to spank business owners--and thus, by extension, creating a widening gulf of animosity between gay and straight--when the American consumer is more than willing and able to accomplish the same goal, but in a way that unites the gay and straight communities.

 

See how none of those examples are recent?

 

Still happens though.

Try get a job as a waitress in a trendy cafe if you are not female 16 to 27. i.e if you are old or fat or ugly or male, most womens retailers too.

It still is going to happen, small businesses are going to hire whoever they want, prioritize clientele they want, based on race as well.

Just not actually admit to it outloud

 

And look at the push back--one we're still experiencing.

Don't believe me? Look in the White House.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do everything.