Democrats clean house, Republicans embrace sexual improprieties.

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  1. Meliai

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    Point taken about the allegations being 30 years old, but my point was Clinton is no longer in a position of power

    I dont really disagree with most of what you said though
     
  2. NotMyRealName

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    If you don't think that Hillary Clinton isn't attached to that same ethic you are being very optimistically hopeful of a Utopian world.

    And Roy Moore isn't currently in a position of power. He has been twice removed from the bench he served for defying Supreme Court rulings. A point that is now getting him elected.
     
  3. Meliai

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    Bill Clinton isnt being endorsed by the President to get elected into a position of power

    Hillary isn't in a position of power either but I've never cared for her either way.
     
  4. NotMyRealName

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    Totally get what your saying. He should have NOT endorsed him. But in the end he couldn't afford to not endorse him and possibly allowing that lack of endorsement allow a Dem to get a seat that hasn't been a Dem in something like 30 years. Trump....like it or not....is also becoming a politician now.
     
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  5. MeAgain

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    The Democrats are overreacting to force the Republicans to face the fact that they're supporting white racists, alleged child molesters, and a rapist.
    In a perfect world Franken should have been given a hearing.

    The Moore signature on the yearbook has not been proven to be a forgery, I don't know where you got that. It would be hard to prove either way.

    The Democrats aren't melting down, they are cleaning up their house, admittedly they are going a little overboard, but that's so much better than the Republicans officially embracing these scumbags.

    Trump has no political skeletons in his closet!!! Ha ha. He has every type of skeleton you can name short of murder.
     
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  6. MeAgain

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    Well, he could choose to not endorse him if he had any balls and a sense of ethics and a high moral standard and cared for the soul of the country instead of the republican agenda, morality be damned.
     
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  7. GeorgeJetStoned

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    It's all such obvious theater. And as usual the old "republicans are white supremacists" canard is being trotted out with great zeal, as if any and all republicans are just 1 match away from burning a cross (a symbol few democrats give a flying crap about). However, the democrats really screwed the pooch with their treatment of Conyers and the CBC is steaming mad at the white-centric "good ole boys" club in the democratic party.

    As I listened to Franken very loosely "suggest" he may be resigning (in a couple of weeks), it was obvious he was the sacrificial white lamb. Look at the way democrats ran the bus over him every 2 minutes on tw itter. It was a comedic way to knock the wind out of the CBCs sails. Instead the message received is "see, we fuck white guys too". Going after a legacy black congressman as the democrats have, for "moral" reasons, is what will probably bridge the gap between black American voters and the GOP.

    I know, I know, that sounds insane, especially when you consider how long the democrats have had a stranglehold on black voters. But it's not the first time democrats have totally taken advantage of a situation and fed a black person to the lions.

    Folks, the next few weeks are going to be prime, popcorn-worthy performances as the democrats try to outmaneuver Trump with tainted bait. My only hope is that he lays waste to the RINOs as well. I'm sick of career politics, it was never the way it was supposed to work. Communism suffers the same problem, devolution into class issues and human greed (which is why North Korea is a family business).
     
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  8. NoxiousGas

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    correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Monica WILLINGLY suck Clintons dick and only after talking to friend decided to monopolize/monetize it.

    some of you folks need to lose the party bullshit and judge shit on a case by case methodology.
     
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  9. MeAgain

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    There is no outmaneuvering of Trump needed, everyone knows Trump is an idiot, even the Republicans.

    What needs to be outmaneuvered is the Republican party and its base. They'e the ones giving Trump his support. They're using him to get their agenda.
    It's becoming more and more clear that the Republicans are only interested in making money for themselves and as long as Trump is useful in this regard they will support him.
    As he said:
    Change the last word to supporters and that's where we are.

    Sadly, I'm beginning to believe he could actually shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it.
     
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  10. NotMyRealName

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    Re: Forgery
    Roy Moore says signature is a forgery, experts say not so fast
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/roy-moore-yearbook/index.html
    Roy Moore ‘Yearbook Forged’ Allegation: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

    3 of many sources. Of varied political leanings.

    "Political Skeletons" Trump doesn't as yet owe any political favors to anyone. That appears to be changing now that he is attempting to actually pass any sort of legislation. He will soon be as politically corrupt as the rest of them.
     
  11. NotMyRealName

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    Yes she did. And Clinton adamantly denied it all happened. Until he didn't.

    She should have never been placed in an environment whereby saying no may prove to have been a career limiting choice. A 20 something year old intern saying no to the president of the U.S. and her boss. I wonder how that would have turned out for her?

    We are trying to define which levels of scumbags are running this place. Its interesting to see those condemning one party for the very same things the leaders of the party they support rationalize away. The ethics of the voters are just as questionable as how they defend the very same scumbags.

    Roy Moore is a scumbag. Donald Trump is a scumbag. Pick either Clinton you want=Scumbag.

    I already see people saying, Franken did a lot of good and he should not leave. So then we get to rationalize when a scumbag is allowed to be a do gooding scumbag. And that depends on your political beliefs. If we are defining which scumbag we decide to support, then welcome to this weeks news cycle.
     
  12. NotMyRealName

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    Yeah kind of like Kennedy and Chappaquiddick.
     
  13. MeAgain

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    One thing I noticed is that people who went to the same elementary school as I did have very similar handwriting to mine.
     
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  15. MeAgain

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    Why do you continue to drag up past events?
    Do you think we don't know anything about history?
    These things have been investigated, debated, and analyzed ad nauseum yet you drag them out as if they are currently happening.

    The world has changed.
     
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  16. NotMyRealName

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    You mean like Moore and his actions of 30 years ago?

    I have seen no time spent on his more recent scumbag tendencies. Like opposing Supreme Court rulings and losing his job twice from it. That is much more recent of his character behavior. Doesn't seem as interesting to current news cycle.

    Trump could get away with murder. It wouldn't be any precedent being set if he did. His supporters would rationalize it as OK. History will repeat itself. Nothing new here.

    If the world is so different now, the Clinton Foundation would be liquidated and those assets paid out as damages to all the females that stepped forward. That is currently relevant to todays climate. It would show TRUE commitment to the recognition of change.
     
  17. MeAgain

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    Moore is running for Congress.
    Bill Clinton isn't, Hillary Clinton isn't, Ted Kennedy isn't, the Clinton Foundation isn't. So why bring them up?

    Moore's firings and so on have been in the news.
     
  18. Okiefreak

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    I think child molestation is in a class by itself. Kennedy and Chappaquiddick were suspicious, but if there was any more hard evidence Republicans surely would have ferreted it out by now. Teddy is long gone, dead as a doornail, and we may never know. No living witness accused him. His brother John, the Prez, was rumored to have been quite a womanizer, but at the time journalists followed a code of silence on such matters. Bill's sexual escapades were reviewed ad nauseum by multiple Republican-led investigating committees, a zealous special prosecutor, and the pubic in two elections. He was impeached, barred from U.S. Supreme Court practice and suspended from state practice. The rape charge against him is quite serious, and those who believe it may hold him in reproach. These were factors Hillary had to contend with in 2016. Bill is no longer in office, so he can't be removed. Trump is in the highest office of the land. Roy Moore is running for the Senate. Back in the day, the Federalists accused Thomas Jefferson of having sex with his slave. The voters didn't seem to care.
     
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  19. NotMyRealName

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    Actions of the past were not in the present was the point you were making. Moore 30 years ago vs. Clinton was 20 years ago. Somehow one matters because he may be in office now and it doesn't matter because the other one is not? Bill Clinton is a figurehead for the Democratic party. On the same level as Obama. Of the 2 if I were a Democrat I'd be eliminating Bill Clinton from our landscape. Otherwise we are perceived as hypocritical when we have a problem with what Moore did 30 years ago, yet we perpetuate the Clinton legacy.

    If the present day Democrats are so hard on bringing about recognition for misdeeds towards women, they should call for the dismantling of the Clinton Foundation and using its assets to pay off the women's emotional traumas that the members of their party have brought about. That should send the clear message that they recognize the culture that has been in place and at least for their part show they are serious. Sort of like demanding the taking down of statutes in the south because its reflective of deeds long since past.

    Give the Republicans a real sense of change when it comes time to ask for votes.
     
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