has been moved to the NEW Men's Issues Forum. (Per request of the thread originator Mattinvegas.) I left a "redirect" here, but Matt would like it on the MIF, which is great. Here's the URL, or you can use the "redirect" by clicking on the Father's Issues thread here. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55165 Blessings, Maggie