"Satan worshippers"

Discussion in 'Cults' started by forestdude, Mar 7, 2005.

  1. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    Good enough. Honour and piety are not that modern.:biker:
     
  2. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    there are people who call themselves satan worshipers. but satan or god, they are just names people have made up for something no one knows anything about, and has no obligation to what anything thinks they do.
     
  3. Moonfox13

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    Hail satan!
     
  4. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    'satan' is a dark fantasy, spun off from fanatical forms of abrahmic religions. humans are of course, capable of 'worshiping' anything they are capable of imagining.

    lots of other neat fun invisible things exist, but none, good or bad, owe anything to what anyone thinks they know.
     
  5. Anaximenes

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    But the easy and trustworthy form of devil worship is in the watching a movie like "Lawrence of Arabia". For watching it one has the opportunity to develop the vision of success in discovering the ego for the test of the time honoured Will to survive the threat of defeat of the courage in Godly trust. It is the trustworthy embreeded human individual who deserves the trust of the foe of the ultimate truth of fellow love and charity of the Muslims. Not to detract from the double talk of putting down this individual, we see the happy conclusion for the Good in overcoming authority.

    I am happy; claimed Sartre; and the movie epitomizes that. everyone deserves to be happy for whether he survives to be in love or survives to be a vegetable of circumstance. I still haven't seen the values of the good finding the strange in the universal beyond good and evil in good and evil. I shall return.
     
  6. rak

    rak Senior Member

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    What do Satanists preach, that if your really, really, good, you might go to hell?
     
  7. Okiefreak

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    Not all Christians believe the Bible word for word. Only fundamentalists do. As early as the third century, Origen, a leading theologian of the early church, taught that genesis should be taken as an allegory or metaphor, not as literal truth. Progressive and Mainline Christians today don't take Genesis literally.
     
  8. Okiefreak

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    Satanists tend to discount the possibility that they'll suffer adverse consequences for their actions in the afterlife. They tend to be preoccupied with this life. Orthodox Satanists following LaVey purport not to believe in Satan as an actual supernatural entity. As disciple Marylin Manson puts it "Satanism is about worshipping yourself, becauise you are responsible for your own good and evil". Satanism has been influenced by the thinking of the late Theleman Aleister Crowley, whose ancinet Egyptian spirit guide told him:"Lust, enjoy all things of sex and rapture. Fear not that God shall deny thee for this." The Temple of Set and the Dakima of Angra Maniyu, which worship Satan in His Egyptian and Persian manifestations, respectively, are somewhat more inclined to believe in their god and the underworld as supernatural realities, but still less concerned with an afterlife than in deifying themselves and gratifying their animal urges in this life.
     
  9. Okiefreak

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    Satanists tend to discount the possibility that they'll suffer adverse consequences for their actions in the afterlife. They tend to be preoccupied with this life. Orthodox Satanists following LaVey purport not to believe in Satan as an actual supernatural entity. As disciple Marylin Manson puts it "Satanism is about worshipping yourself, becauise you are responsible for your own good and evil". Satanism has been influenced by the thinking of the late Theleman Aleister Crowley, whose ancinet Egyptian spirit guide told him:"Lust, enjoy all things of sex and rapture. Fear not that God shall deny thee for this." The Temple of Set and the Dakima of Angra Maniyu, which worship Satan in his Egyptian and Persian manifestations, respectively, are somewhat more inclined to believe in their god and the underworld as supernatural realities, but still less concerned with an afterlife than in deifying themselves and gratifying their animal urges in this life.
     
  10. rak

    rak Senior Member

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    So what do satanists think the afterlife will be life, if they believe in such a Thing?
     
  11. Okiefreak

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    It depends on what kind of Satanist you're talking about. I view the term "satanist" broadly to include all occult beliefs following the Left-Hand Path. None of them place as much emphasis on the afterlife as Christians do. LaVeyan Satanists are focused on the here and now, and regard the afterlife as either non-existent or unimportant. As the Book of Satan puts it (4:1): "Life is the Great Indulgence, Death is the Great Abstinence; therefore make the most of life in the here and now." Spiritual Satanists resemble Wiccans in believing in a cycle of temporary respite for the soul in an "Other World", followed by reincarnation. Some also believe that they can be stuck as ghosts in this world. Some Theistic Satanists, such as Setians, have similar beliefs, except they see reincarnation as a path to increasing self-perfection, culminating in self-deification (Xeper). Luciferians don't consider themselves as Satanists at all, but think Lucifer (the light bearer) got a bum rap in being confused with Satan and ejected from Heaven for seeking autonomy and enlightenment. Like the Setians, Theistic Luciferians believe in progressive enlightenment through successive reincarnations. Traditional Theistic Satanists believe they will go to Hell, not as sufferers but as beneficiaries of satanic rewards and as servants to their master. "Better to Reign in Hell Than Serve in Heaven" is their T-shirt slogan lifted from Milton. They reject the Christian concept of Hell as a Lake of Fire and see it as a more pleasant place--at least for themselves. Those few who worship Satan in his Persian manifestation, (Dakhum of Angramainyu), view Hell as "a watery chaotic world" of spiritual energy encompassing the Dark Lord, in which the biblical lake of fire is one chamber. By engaging in Evil Speech, believers distance themselves from Ahura Mazda (the God of Light and Goodness) and achieve freedom in unity with Angramainyu (Ahriman) both in this world and the next. There are other Left-Hand Path groups, but the ones mentioned seem to be the main ones. In my opinion, all have lost their way in self-delusion.
     

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