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#1 Spagelo

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Posted September 22 2017 - 08:39 PM

One theory - and the most likely one to me - is that it was carried out by the Estes-Johnson-Carter-Wallace group in conjunction with the CIA. Someone shot from the grassy knoll and hit the President from the front while someone else fired from the sixth floor of the TSBD. I believe one of the shooters was Mac Wallace, who was LBJ's hatchet-man (handled by Cliff Carter), and the other was Oswald, who was CIA. I don't know which fired from where, but I remember reading that Carter told Estes that Wallace was at the grassy knoll.

 

Billie Sol Estes was a businessman and big-league con artist who operated in Texas in the 1950's and 60's. With the help of Senator Johnson, he knocked the Department of Agriculture dead for $21 million a year in federal subsidies on his bogus cotton allotments. Henry Marshall was asked to investigate Billie Sol in 1960, and he discovered that he was buying and selling his acres at an unusually fast rate. Marshall recommended to his superiors that regulations be significantly strengthened, and Billie Sol's operations became seriously threatened. So he had A. B. Foster write to Cliff Carter, who met with Lyndon Johnson and contacted Malcolm Wallace... In the following year, Marshall was found dead - bludgeoned on the head and shot five times with a bolt-action rifle. Ruled a suicide.

 

After getting reports of Estes borrowing money using nonexistent fertilizer storage tanks as collateral, Billie Sol was arrested by the FBI in 1962 on fraud and conspiracy charges. Lyndon Johnson distanced himself from Billie Sol and had Mac Wallace bump off people who could connect Estes with him. However, it was only a matter of time, as he was also under investigation for giving out military contracts for bribes (Indochina, anyone?) and Johnson needed the Presidency to stay out of jail. Meanwhile, Kennedy had plenty of powerful enemies behind the scenes, from the CIA to Hoffa. So, Johnson worked with the CIA, and had Carter get Wallace to hire people for the job, including Jack Ruby, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Loy Factor - a backup shooter. The President was hit twice, the Vice President took the oath, investigations ended into Johnson and eventually into the assassination, and Oswald took the blame.

 

I should also add that there is an equally valid theory that there was only a single shooter due to bullet trajectory, but whether there was a second shooter or not, the greater theory of the Vice President's responsibility for the assassination is plausible either way. It's possible that Wallace hired Ruby and Oswald to either have someone to take the heat after Wallace made the shots (he was a stone-cold killer when Oswald was barely in junior high and would have been a more experienced marksman), or to have Oswald make the shots while Wallace took a supporting role.

 

That covers the basics of Johnson's involvement, anyways. Anything else can be covered by those who wish to cover it.


Edited by Spagelo, September 22 2017 - 08:50 PM.


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Posted September 23 2017 - 09:57 AM

No planes were used.


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Posted September 23 2017 - 10:29 AM

You are the right track OP. Ignore the people who try to shame you about it.

 

Kennedy thought the presidnety meant he was in charge. He told people this including the people who are not elected. The people who earn their high level black ops spots with years of service. The tradition is that these men actuly run things and the belief is that they should because the public is stupid and their politicians including the president change all the time. He was such a hero to the public if he stands up to them and maybe blows a whistle well that would be catastrophic. So they had to kill him. Even today Kennedy is probably one of the top 3 popular presidents ever.

 

Nixon bailed out some CIA members out of prison only because they said they would "blow the lid off the Kennedy thing". That alone was enough to have other crimes excused. No doubt it was an American agency that did the killing. There is no one else who had that amount of access to him and his security which was unusually lacking that day. He's the most important man in America and for some reason the Secret Service is told to hang back that day.  The doctor who did the autopsy was also goverment chosen and made some odd assumptions. It does not add up.


Edited by unfocusedanakin, September 23 2017 - 10:37 AM.

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Posted September 23 2017 - 10:30 AM



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Posted September 25 2017 - 01:30 AM

Killer shot fired from storm drain.

Back & to the left. Back & to the left.

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Posted September 25 2017 - 02:23 PM

lots of people had motive, means and opportunity.  anyone who does anything good is going to piss off someone by inconveniencing them.

whoever and why ever, i don't believe it came from above and behind.  simple gun fail is still also a serious and real possibility.


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Posted September 25 2017 - 02:25 PM

I remember having to write a paper on this for sociology class.  Cannot remember what I wrote, though. 


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Posted September 25 2017 - 02:25 PM

Killer shot fired from storm drain.

Back & to the left. Back & to the left.

or from the front passenger seat, from just about ass level.  without aim and quite possibly without intention, which is why i suggest gun fail. 


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Posted September 25 2017 - 02:59 PM

I recently heard the theory that the "killing" shot to the head was fired by a S.S. guy in the back of the car.

After the initial shot the car behind Kennedy stops causing a S.S. man to stumble. That's when his gun goes off and kills Kennedy.

 

The cover up is to avoid embarrassment to the S.S.

 

Menninger is part of a small but vocal group of theorists who hold that after Lee Harvey Oswald rattled off multiple shots at the motorcade carrying Kennedy past the Texas School Book Depository, a Secret Service agent riding in a car immediately behind the presidential limousine grabbed his Colt AR-15 high-velocity rifle to return fire. 

 

But when his car stopped suddenly, the theory holds, Agent George Hickey lost his balance and accidentally discharged his weapon, sending a .223-caliber round rocketing into Kennedy's head — the wound that later killed the 35th president.

 

"It was entirely accidental," Menninger said. "Unfortunately, fate intervened as this agent was attempting to do his job."

Most original theory I've heard.


 

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Posted September 26 2017 - 12:35 AM

I recently heard the theory that the "killing" shot to the head was fired by a S.S. guy in the back of the car.

After the initial shot the car behind Kennedy stops causing a S.S. man to stumble. That's when his gun goes off and kills Kennedy.

 

The cover up is to avoid embarrassment to the S.S.

 

Most original theory I've heard.

interesting, but still has the bullet traveling in the opposite direction of that revealed by the autopsy.

which still requires it to have been fired from in front of him.

same problem with the book depository as firing position.


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