Noam Chomski: Antifa Is A Gift To The Right

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  1. Beach Ball Lady Balls

    Beach Ball Lady Balls Banned

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    Stay clear of their pages and others. Your grammar has been impeccable in the past. "they dumb" is probably something you picked up on those pages.
     
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  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    She uses it ironically.

    And that she learned from a Hipster facebook page.
     
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  4. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Antifa became a parody of itself with phenomenal quickness.

    Any logical person is anti-fascist. But these people are just batshit insane.
     
  5. Meliai

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    You get me.
     
  6. Ajay0

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    The nazis exploited the threat perception of the communists in germany and europe to strengthen their own position through propaganda. So there is a precedent to this observation of Chomsky.

    But it is also a fact that the nazi army were finally annihilated by the soviets in the end.

    Antifa can be a potent line of defence against fascism in America, but they do have to tone down their rhetoric and reactivity to prudent levels, and channel their energies into fighting fascism through spreading awareness , creating meaningful dialogue, debates and discussion of its demerits.
     
  7. Irminsul

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    Noamo the homo
     
  8. Eleven

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    The bad Antifa does greatly outweighs the good. I agree with the following by Chomsky, on Antifa: "When confrontation shifts to the arena of violence, it's the toughest and most brutal who win – and we know who that is. That's quite apart from the opportunity costs – the loss of the opportunity for education, organising, and serious and constructive activism."
     
  9. Eleven

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    I see Antifa as incapable of true activism. Of constructive activism. There seems something narcissistic about Antifa. I don't see Antifa's members as capable of compromise, or tolerating those who disagree with them.
     
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  10. Piaf

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    ...is a shlomo
     
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  11. 6-eyed shaman

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    2 weeks ago trump was a deplorable racist nazi sympathizer for denouncing Antifa. Now Noam Chomski and even Nancy Pelosi are speaking out against alt left violence. Maybe they're racists too
     
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  12. Okiefreak

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    Trump was not a deplorable racist nazi sympthazer for denouncing Antifa, He was (an is) a deplorable racist nazi sympathizer for suggesting moral equivalence between the torchlight paraders chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" and the people who turned out to oppose them, who were not all or even mostly Antifa. Heather Heyer was not Antifa. And I support Noam Chomsky for speaking out against the masked criminal anarchist thugs who call themselves "Antifa". Why is that incongruous to you. All thugs who use violence against lawful authority need to be resisted--right, left, or center.
     
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  13. Piney

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    To nobody in particular: I am sure that your Mother would object to protesting with helmets, shields and sticks it invites trouble.
     
  14. 6-eyed shaman

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    LOL Trump is every single word that ends in ___ist. He denounced all sides that took part in the violence. He should've denounced the city council for allowing the permits, and the police department for stepping down until it got ugly.

    Noam Chomsky isn't incongruous to speak out against antifa. I was being sarcastic. It's actually a good thing that he is. He's one first progressives out there to do the right thing to speak out and disassociate the alt-left from the rest of the left. Meanwhile the MSM praised Antifa as a "peace through violence" movement. Antifa needs to be made as uncool as white supremacy, so nobody else throws their life away by joining it.
     
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    LOL Democrats can't be racist, silly.
     
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  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    There is no "Alt Left", fake news.

     
  17. 6-eyed shaman

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    The alt-left earned the title of alt-left, whether the alt-left likes it or not.
     
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    They're not the alt left, they're antifa. They're anarchists, they have no desire to work within the framework of our current political system

    I feel like the term alt left is just a way to create a false connection between antifa and anyone else who swings to the left politically
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Lol and sigh
     
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