Why Do You Think A Lack Of Meat Upsets People So Much?

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by unfocusedanakin, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    yes but those meat meals provided nutrients not available via other practical means. do you think cavemen could go to the supermarket and get "superfoods" that would provide the proteins needed.

    again, your argument is with science, not me and frankly, you are wrong.
    logistics...
    because the nutrient value of a pound of meat far exceeds that of a pound of plant matter.
    with the large population we have, veggies simply would not be enough.
    how many pounds of veg do you need to consume in order to gain the same nutritional value as meat?
     
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  2. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    There is noting in an animal you can not find in a plant. Like I said very little of the diet came from meat until thousand of years past the evolution of the human mind. We chose to eat meat because it tastes good but we don't need meat. Evolution will find a way to live so yes we have the teeth to eat anything. But that is not "science" of us needing meat. We also have an appendix which serves no purpose and some humans are born with tails. Evolution is funny and slow.
     
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  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    *sigh*
    all I have to say is YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
     
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  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Maybe if you post this enough it will become true.
     
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    I Would Love To Kick The Hornets Nest Here........ But Commonsense Says.....GLEN DON'T......[​IMG]



    Cheers Glen.
     
  6. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Let me ask why you seem to get so butthurt over people consuming meat and why you try to pass off bullshit opinion as trumping scientific fact.
    If that is the diet/lifestyle you choose, fine, just don't think you are going to get away with the lame reasoning you have provided.
    education is a wonderful thing, it puts to rest opinion and bullshit.
     
  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    I guess I should have expected posts like this. People will believe what they want. I'm not trying to put your life down. I ate meat for a long time too and obviously I would not have done it if it tasted like shit. I just hope some day more people will see the truth.
     
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  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    well lets try an experiment;
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.
    YOU ARE VERY WRONG, GO EDUCATE YOURSELF.

    hmm, well it is still true, so........
     
  9. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Well because all you have done is say "sigh educate yourself" without any proof. Mine is there if you wish to believe the evolution you claim happened when it did you are welcome to. But are the one who is not being accurate. I'm not upset you can live your life as you want. You are the one in a vegetarian forum.
     
  10. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    I believe what is commonly excepted as scientific fact
    and what truth would that be?
     
  11. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    The truth that is you want to claim meat has some place in evolution there is simply not enough time for significant changes to occur in the human mind.
     
  12. Moonglow181

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    No, I cannot be hypocritical. I have to cook meat for my dogs.....and some for the cats, and on rare occassion, I will eat meat, also....
    and no, I don't think I am better than people who do....but I don't think I am better than any animal, either.....
    What makes me sick are these people who pose with their kill with big, obnoxious smiles...poor animal limply dangling off of them, for photographs.....with no respect or feeling for the animal.....and the big game killers who just kill things for the fun of it for their trophies...No, i cannot stand these kinds of people......but I don't start fights with people like this most times...as most times, i will walk away in sadness, is all.....in real life....I do voice myself on the internet quite a bit about this, though......Someone has to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves sometimes.
    I am sad about it...more than angry ever.....
    I have never killed anything...other than a tick or fly or mosquito.......and I don't even kill flies anymore.....I just cannot kill things, so I do not understand people who can....and if no one else did....I guess i would never eat it.....
     
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  13. YouFreeMe

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    Anakin--yes! You hit the nail on the head in the OP. I rarely talk about being vegetarian, but when people find out, most of them immediately jump on the defensive, or give some reason why they would like to be plant-based, but they never could because blah blah blah. I get a lot of ridiculous hypothetical questions, too. I don't think people like to be questioned or to think critically about things they enjoy and have always assumed were right. It makes people very uncomfortable and so they try to turn the problem on to you. I rarely engage with these people any more, I just give them some generic "let's talk about something else" answer and move on.
     
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  14. GLENGLEN

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    I Think The Truth Is Perfectly Clear...... Eat A Balanced Diet And Without "Vege-Heads" The World Will

    Have A Lot Less Weirdo's To Cope With...............DAMN......I Promised Myself I Wouldn't "Stir The Pot"

    And Look What Just Happened.......[​IMG]



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  15. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks for the support in this thread to fellow plant eaters.
     
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  16. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    go educate yourself;
    https://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html
    http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-humans-eat-meat-excerpt/
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120420105539.htm
    http://www.npr.org/2010/08/02/128849908/food-for-thought-meat-based-diet-made-us-smarter
    https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html
    https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
    https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/evidence-for-meat-eating-by-early-humans-103874273
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/(SICI)1520-6505(1999)8:1%3C11::AID-EVAN6%3E3.0.CO;2-M/abstract
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-fire-makes-us-human-72989884/
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112334465
    http://blogs.plos.org/neuroanthropology/2010/10/28/food-for-thought-cooking-in-human-evolution/
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121026-human-cooking-evolution-raw-food-health-science/
    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/06/invention-of-cooking-drove-evolution-of-the-human-species-new-book-argues/
     
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  17. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    while I can appreciate the sentiment, I call bullshit .
    go a few Weeks without food and you WILL kill another critter and eat it, guaranteed.
     
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  18. Moonglow181

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    but that is a piss poor attack on me, as most people are not in that situation, so I call bull shit on that reasoning....or justification for the killing that they do do.
     
  19. unfocusedanakin

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