Virginia Shooting

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/alexandria-virginia-shooting/index.html

 

Who didn't see this coming? Really. I'm only surprised it took so long for the hard left shit to finally motivate some loser into taking shots at "those evil republicans". Only a God has any right to be taking lives like this. When humans do this, it's the ultimate arrogance. Sure, I have no problem with executing murderers and people who rape children, but this does not compare. This is all mindfuck. And this killer was clearly taken in by it.

Check out an old documentary called "Faces of the enemy". Dehumanizing opponents makes killing them SO much easier. I wonder if this old coot fully understood what he was doing (he wasn't a very good shot after all)? Or was he some senile old guy who was manipulated into total horror?

 

To be fair, it happens the other way around also. Doctors at abortion clinics (but no lawmakers that I'm aware of) have been shot and, although not explicitly political, I doubt the shooters were liberals. Conservatives motivated by the vitriol of the hard right maybe?

 

Uh, I'm pretty sure the Dick was being facetious when he called Republicans "evil." After all, he bracketed the word with quote marks. This is usually a form of punctuation that is used when conveying how somebody else--and not the writer, i.e. Dick--feels about the group who is written with quotations.

Well, at least I hope he was being facetious.

i'd hate to think that anybody here on these august forums is really so ignorant as to think that any particular political group deserves to be murdered in cold blood.

 

There are definitely mental cases all over the political spectrum

This is just going to be used as another reason to spread political hatred and to prove some point about anyone who leans to the left. This guy was a nut job. That guy who shot up the abortion clinic last year (right leaning) was also a nut job. These nutjobs don't reflect on other people of the same political persuasion.

America is like a girl with low self esteem who has been in shitty, back to back relationships for years and just needs to be single and find herself

We collectively are taking politics too seriously - the murder of a congressman is a symptom, the fact that so many people are gleefully jumping on the fact that he voted for Bernie Sanders as proof that liberals suck or whatever they think it proves is also a, albeit less serious, symptom

We need to take a break and find ourselves, maybe just focus on building strong friendships right now. Republicans, go befriend a democrat. Democrats, go befriend a republican. Independents, good job. I'm proud of you for not getting caught up in the stupidity.

I am being a bit facetious but the vitriol in American politics is ftightening. This guy isn't a product of liberalism or leftists, he is a product of the overall state of American politics.

Our politicians need to stop acting as if 50% of their constituents don't deserve to be represented - I am not defending murder at all but the fact that these elected officials can't do their goddamn jobs is breeding resentment. It just is. Congressmen basically act as if they're elected not to work for their constituents but to prevent the other side from working for their constituents. Ridiculous.

And we as voters and citizens need to learn to engage in civil discourse and tone down the hateful rhetoric on both sides. No one is deplorable, no one is a snowflake, we're all just people trying to make our way in the world and hoping our elected officials don't screw us over. And they are screwing us over, we all know it.

Can we please go back to the days where it is considered impolite to discuss politics in most situations?

Just some of my rambling thoughts, I'm tired and apologize if I'm not being very coherent. I'm just sick of politics at this point. And before anyone misinterprets my words, lemme make it clear what this guy did is despicable and just because our congressmen are lousy at their jobs it obviously doesn't excuse what this guy did. Thanks hope that helps

Just as a side note I find the subject of radicalization fascinating. The term is usually applied in terms of Islamic extremism but I think anyone can become radicalized and I find the psychology behind it interesting

 

Shooter has the same last name as my grandmothers maiden name. The shooting took place in a park with my grandmothers married name.

 

The sad thing here is that both sides will not see this for what it was. Instead it's always the fault of the other politcal party.

"violent left" "libs" "libtard"

These are the words used by people looking for simple answers and bound to tribalism. Same thing every time. There MIGHT be talk of new gun laws for a week but I doubt it with the current president. During this time gun sales will surge because people believe this it the end. It's only a matter of days before it happens again and this one is forgotten.

I can only hope one day America understands the world pities us when it comes to gun laws.

 

$10,000 bucks says the media doesn't hype this story as much as they did with senator Giffords

 

i have the same rifle

i have no idea why they are calling it an assault rifle....its just an old army surplus gun..

in Canada they get pinned to 5 shot instead of the stock 10 shot clip...but even at 10 its still just a regular semi auto like many hunting guns

 

agreed. greetings from somewhere else.

 

sorry to hear it either way. the radical left and right are both insane.

i fear suitable policing of militant leftwing ism is creeping by the wayside however.

 

The problem is associating any religious fanatic as a "conservative". I don't recall the last time I heard about an abortion clinic shooting or bombing, but I know it wasn't a regular thing. One doctor was killed in a church and it turned out that he had already been threatened realistically a number of times beforehand. What was he doing in a church if he knew he had a target on his back? Faith? Or just thumbing his nose at the threats, pure arrogance.

If I knew people were gunning for me, I wouldn't endanger others just to prove a point about my freedom. When you become the target of fanatics, you have NO freedom. I don't care about this particular killer's politics. He was a psychopath and used politics as a convenient excuse. Trying to find a "cause" from such a person is fruitless. Who the hell cares "why" a psychopath killed people? The fact he did it is all it takes to convince me that he doesn't need to keep breathing.

Some humans are hideously malformed mentally. No amount of sympathy or understanding will reconcile this. Just be glad he can't kill anyone else.

 

Well said, Dick.

When the media uses dirty tactics like this to dehumanize a certain group of people, they use that kind of psychology to sow the seeds of useful idiots such as this.

This whole incident reminds me of the Dallas Sniper. Who ate up everything Black Lives Matter and popular media told him about cops hunting black people for sport. History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.

 

Let's be honest of the two parties one is always very pro Christian and one is the one chastised for believing America is not a "Christian nation". One party pushes the idea that the Christian is a victim and everyone is out to get them.It's unfair to say every abortion clinic bomber is a Republican. But they are usualy the type who will watch Fox news and Alex Jones before any "liberal media".

The Christian mega churches here do not donate to Democrats. And it's always the religious belief that abortion is wrong that causes a bombing. Where do you think they get these ideas? Really no different then a Muslim suicide bomber. Either way there are "sinners" and god will be pleased if I punish them.

 

It's weird how you are lamenting the very sort of tactics you seem to accept. As long as they're shooting at the "right" enemy. Consider also that Christians are not a massive monobloc. They come in a variety of styles. Which is why so many factions of Christians support Muslim refugees. Yes, I too have heard the US described as a "Christian" nation, but that simply is not true and never has been.

At some point we all have to set aside the easy explanations and snappy slogans and do some real research into the claims being made from all sides. The republicans and democrats are essentially the same elitist country club crowd. Aligning entirely with either one will only make people into fanatics. If you absolutely cannot vote across party lines, you might have a problem with your own individuality.

This I would know since I'm a republican who voted for Obama. I really had high hopes for him and he fucked me and everyone else who has suffered from the "War on Drugs. But then, so did Clinton. I remember, I was there.

 

A hip shot isn't as sexy as a head shot.

 

I don't support anyone being shot. There is no right enemy. I also don't vote for either party, never have, probably never will.

 

It was an easy vote, there's no way I was voting for John McManchurian.

 

Sure that's easy to say. And while sociopathy does not identify with any particular ideology or religion. Somehow I feel that if this incident happened the other way around, this thread would be 20 pages long, not 2.

If the shooter listened to Alex Jones, voted Trump, liked Breitbart, and wore a tinfoil hat, the reaction on this thread would be way more viscious than this.

Instead he actually watched Rachel Maddow, voted Bernie, liked the Southern Poverty Law Center, and wore a Pussy Hat. So now we are all hush hush about this.

 

Well I was actually surprised certain members didnt come and make a big fuss of this actually. I've seen other members make post after post trying to prove certain things about anyone who leans to the left when it comes to socialism, antifa, etc. I dunno where they are now.

This forum isn't really that left wing though, I guess new members think it is because its supposedly a hippie site and maybe they read through old posts or something, I dunno. But as far as active members, I think it is probably 50/50 left/right leaning.

And it isn't really a hippie site anynore either