I don't think moving forward is going to be easy after this. But really I ask myself if we have really moved forward since 2010. Perhaps May will be forced out by disgruntled tories and yet another election called. If that led to another hung parliament, we'll just have to get used to hung parliaments. Anyway, there's no going back to the way it was before yesterday's vote. I'm not sure how its going to play out - I don't think anyone is. If the SNP's vote were to collapse even further at a later election, probably Labour might pick up a lot of seats north of the border, and possibly get a majority. I don't think the Scots in general have much appetite for independence after all, so probably the SNP have passed their peak.
I predict we go back to the polls as early as Autumn, there are a lot of unhappy people out there. seems the students came out to vote for labour... may will be over ruled, kicked out and we will get trumps son... oh happy days!
Of course they did Babs He promised them Everything they wanted to Hear ! I dont think this country is in the mood to go to the Polls again
Cheers! I have to admit that I was surprised when I heard the results. I was fully expecting a tory win. Got up this morning and the question in my mind was only 'by how many seats?' I think all we can do now is wait and see what happens. It seems to me though that the country is now more divided than ever I recall. Anyway, I have had a belly full of politics for now.
well that was a gamble that didn't pay off. looking at the vote count, the split is pretty much similar to brexits leave/remain. assuming conservatives took the leave vote, since ukip basically shrank to nothing. intrestingly, this is in light of the surge is support from the young so to me it is clear enough brexit is still more favourable, because this should have swung the vote more towards labour had a few older labour voters switched to the conservatives. it must also be commented, therefore, that because the split is still so narrow, how was a commons election perceivably a good idea? even if you got the 52%, it wasn't a black and white choice and people had many parties to select from. so in a nut shell trying to create a clear majority would have been pretty much impossible to my math from the get go, with a race to the borttom when factoring in these things. i feel may was terrible. jeremy corbyn was not too much better, imo. i once said a few weeks ago to a friend i felt as though this election was a chance to throw brexit, because logistically the challenge is too much to handle. i mean, negotiations are literally in a matter of days!?? i believe more than ever may the silent remainer has reflected on her previous, or never changed, intentions. i do hope people realise now that a radical party is in government. its perfectly within the conservatives right to form a government with whoever they wanted, LABOUR CLEARLY LOST (i loved j.c's.. we are elected comment... funny). however, now i cannot see how young people's lives are better off. the left has split between the radical left and the center left... without any compromise on the values of all left leaning persons, much like T.M's hubris, J.C has fallen on his sword. if he wanted to be prime minister, he needed to look at a way of simply making socialism more accessible... this may require compromise. instead the government may become more rightwing, possible not less as the press seem to report. the dup after all, are hard brexit backers also. but more broadly want actual divisions between people. very dissapointed by the result. but this proves more than ever the human race simply cannot fathom that no two people are the same, and without compromise, you end up pleasing absolutely nobody.
The DUP was the most (google) searched political party in the UK yesterday ??? Because no one remembers who Ian Paisley was??? I found that curious I find this all a bit curious, They are anti-womens rights, yet their leader is a woman Homophobia is deep rooted within what is a right wing protestant party......more so than the right wing Catholic ones? LOL Now that the DUP have more influence, they will shift more to economic matters to consolidate that power in future elections, less about anti gay stuff.....because, well, no one really gives a shit about that, well as much of a shit compared to ,in this instance, Brexit Another thing I find curious is most seem to assume right wing means anti gay Not that it would ever happen as there are never enough of them in any population, but imagine if you did get a party with only gay and lesbian members, do you think they would be conservative or liberal? The vast majority of gays and lesbians I've met, the real ones that is, are mid to far right wing, especially when it comes to economics and controlling breeders, and Ive met a LOT Whether its hardline national or unionist irish parties or even in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia; gays and lesbians are embedded in there, forming those very policies sometimes......well, because it keeps both the breeders and bisexuals under control (without them even realising it ). And those gays and Lesbians embedded in such organizations, its like no one else can see them, its bizarre How many times has Arlene Foster drank from the furry cup? You or anyone else has really no idea
Ireland are still so behind with the times it's quite incredible. Irish women still come to the UK for abortions, and risk being prosecuted when they get back. Read a touching story couple of weeks ago about a couple with a disabled son, they were pregnant and had been told this baby had no brain, who knows why! But they were not allowed to terminate it. They did a blog, them leaving Ireland, to the abortion, it was heart breaking. And the 13 year old raped by her father, had to endure the birth of her own father's child, who knows what those children will go through.. Yep it's a strange place for women, but god knows what kind of woman she is.. hope she don't try to butt in here.. What a deal.. it's not even a true coalition.. shouldn't be allowed! Role on Autumn, I think that will be labours time..
They are either too old or dead... or they wont forgive him... yeah, i would have Tony back tomorrow.. stop chucking things at me....? ?
Corbyn has had a lot of bad press, but let us not forget it was he who galvanised people into action, played to large crowds and captured the mind set of the youth who took the opportunity to make their voice heard, and voted ! It cannot be denied that Corbyn has been the Rebel with a cause that has achieved a major change to the political landscape - this should be acknowledged The people have spoken - the time for change is now - be it Corbyn; twice, elected, the second time with a bigger majority at the head of the Party, or if a strategically considered in-party agreement see either an alternative leader or deputy selected - with more heavyweight Labourites coming back into the shadow fold, then the party may well gain even greater support to its current momentum. With the instability of any coalition (including the latest legal point of perhaps breaking the 'Good friday agreement), the issue of Brexit and indeed the Tory leadership itself questioned if not untenable, that it would seem more likely to be a case of when and not if, the next comes around before the end of the year "Persistence is never futile".
May's plane to rip up Human Rights - hits a snag http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/pm-mays-plan-to-rip-up-human-rights-law-would-end-good-friday-agreement-warns-legal-expert-35798491.html
Corbyn's status in the Labour party is now secured. The critics have been shown to be wrong when they predicted disaster. Those who sought to remove him now look like they made a big mistake. If the Blairites had supported him from the start instead of trying to unseat him, maybe he would have won this time. Considering the invective against him in the right wing media, he did very well. I think it's quite possible that next time around, and it might not be that long, he can win. I have to admit I had my doubts, but I've warmed to him over this campaign, as have a lot of others. Blair is history now. The 'New Labour' project is finished for good.
if you lose a football match 5-0, then play a rematch and lose only 3-0. You still lose. You've won nothing Goes without saying Jeremy Corbyn is an arsenal fan
The Fear Factor = http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/10/tories-spent-1200000-on-negative-anti-jeremy-corbyn-social-media-adverts-6699774/
* Media Report * "Fired-up Jeremy Corbyn today vows to finish what he started by getting rid of Theresa May within a matter of days" He plans to use the Queen’s Speech as his first opportunity to topple the floundering PM. Mr Corbyn is champing at the bit and buzzing with enthusiasm, and over a cappuccino he says it is time for Mrs May to wake up and smell the coffee. The Labour leader says: “I can still be Prime Minister. This is still on. Absolutely. Theresa May has been to the Palace. She’s attempting to form a government. “She’s then got to present a programme to Parliament. “We will – obviously – amend the Queen’s Speech. There’s a possibility of voting it down it and we’re going to push that all the way. “We have got a mandate to deal with issues of poverty, justice and inequality in Britain. We want to end austerity and invest in this country and that’s what we’re going to do. “Nearly 13 million people voted for us to do it. That’s why I’m here.” The election result saw Mrs May scramble to form a minority government to have any kind of Commons majority, enlisting the help of the hard-right DUP to get her over the line. But Mr Corbyn believes there is enough opposition in the rest of the House – and on Mrs May’s own backbenches – to defeat the Government. That could trigger another election as the Tories would face a confidence challenge. The Labour leader is optimistic his progressive manifesto will attract enough support in Parliament to propel him to power. Mr Corbyn addedd “It’s very unclear on the programme they’ll be able to put forward. But we’ll put up our demands and our message and we’ll assert those. “I don’t think Theresa May and this government have any credibility. The Prime Minister called this election on the basis she would need a stronger mandate to negotiate Brexit. “Well look what’s happened. The parallels are with 1974 when the Conservatives sought – as they have done this time – a ‘who governs Britain?’ mandate. “Ted Heath lost and tried to form another government and tried to get another majority in Parliament. “Eventually Harold Wilson managed to form a government. She’s taking us back to those times. It’s back to the seventies with Theresa May.” Mr Corbyn believes the return of former Labour rebels – who have expressed support following his buoyant campaign – is one of the keys to success and he is confident he can attract big-hitters who deserted the front bench back into the fold. He goes on: “Everything’s still to play for. We can still do this. My phone is full of texts from lots and lots of people from right across the party. I’m very happy about that. I’m very proud to lead this party. “I’m open to everyone. It’s important to make that clear. I never get involved in personal abuse or anything like that. “If people have political disagreements that’s fine. We can discuss those. I’ll be appointing a Shadow Cabinet over the next couple of days and announcing it next week.” Labour’s performance during the election campaign stunned many political insiders. And despite not securing enough seats for a win, Mr Corbyn says the party is ideally placed for the next election – whenever that might be. The statistics give him every reason to be bold. He says: “We’ve got the biggest increase in the Labour vote between elections since the Second World War – we put on more than three million votes. “We got 40 per cent of the share. That was the highest any opinion poll put us on. That was people coming back to Labour who had gone away a long time ago. And, of course, young people coming together to support us. “A lot of young people told me they were voting Labour but their family weren’t – so they were working on them. “There must have been some very complicated discussions around the kitchen table in home after home with young, enthusiastic people saying ‘this is why we’ve got to do it’.” Mr Corbyn’s campaign saw him cover thousands of miles up, down and across the country. He attended an astonishing 90 rallies in 60 different towns and cities and his enthusiasm never waned. Mr Corbyn goes on: “The number of people who have been involved has been amazing. “The enthusiasm was infectious and, of course, it infected me as well. It was great. The fundamental message I was putting forward is that we’re strong as a community. “We didn’t have separate messages – one for the old, one for the young, one for the disabled. “We had a message of hope. And that was for everyone. And that ideal is a basic human condition. I’ve worked as hard as I can over the last seven weeks. I know we can do this.” Mr Corbyn returns to the subject of young people and their crucial role in securing a better Britain. He explains: “We’ve got to invest in the youth and the future of our nation. “Austerity has dealt a bitter blow to their aspirations and that’s just wrong. “For too long now the rich have got ever richer whilst those struggling have had no hope of improving their lot. That’s just wrong as well. We cannot continue along this path. "There is a new movement in Britain demanding social change and the millions who voted for the Labour Party cannot and should not be denied. “The Tories may be in government for now, but their model and lack of ambition is unsustainable.I’m ready for another general election. This is just the first step. “I truly believe we can unite this nation and bring the kind of change the nation needs and demands. I feel energised by this result because I know we can build on it.” BY KEIR MUDIE, The Mirror
I thought St Corbyn won ! Free Kittens , Free Lollipops For all students , Money will grow on trees ,and nobody ever needs to get out of bed and work ?
