A Discussion Of Non Dual "adviata" Philosophy.

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  1. MeAgain

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    Nothing can be known of the objective world without thinking about what is perceived. There can be no recognition of an object without subjective knowledge. Thus there is no distinction between the objective and the subjective.

    However, if we grant that there is a difference it would appear that the objective exists a prior to being recognized by the subjective mind.
    But if that be the case how can an immaterial subjective mind know anything about a material object? A material object can only interact with another material object. But if each piece of matter is independent of another, how can they interact?
    If every object is independent and if we grant that the mind is just another object then how can it interact with other objects?
    Even if independent objects can interact and if the mind is just another independent object, then how can a object form ideas about what it has experienced?

    There can be no experience or interaction between objects without a consciousness of that interaction.
    Therefore subject and object, mind and matter, must always co-exist.
     
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    Whew.
    We have seen that objects only appear when thought of. We can't know an object unless we can perceive, and think, about it.
    Moreover our idea of our mind is merely the remembrance of separate thoughts. These thoughts occur in the now moment, and are remembered in the now moment, and this gives us the idea that there is a continuing mind behind them.

    Further can we be conscious of being conscious of being conscious?
    The supposed mind is only the consciousness of perception, it has no objective reality.
    There is no objective mind to reflect on a thought as a thought is not objective itself.
    As we perceive an object, in reality all we do is become consciousness of its perception. Which is really just stating the obvious.

    Your teeth can't bite themselves and you can't lift yourself by your bootstraps.
    Trust me.
     
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    Non duality is not just the dissolution of the false notion of separate objects, it is also the dissolution of the notion of a separate concept of a separate concept called non duality.

    To proclaim all is non dual is to set up false ideal in contradiction to duality.
    When asked if all is non dual the wise man remains silent.
     
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    We can only know that time passes when we think. If thought is absent, so too is the knowledge of a passage of time.
    Time in this case becomes an object. But we have learned that objects can't be separated from thoughts, as no object can be known if it isn't thought of.
    There is no separation between thought and object, thought and time.
    Thought and time are concurrent, because of this there can't be a sequential passage of time. When thought stops, so does time.
    The seeming passage of time, as experienced, is only due to present knowledge of a supposed past and a present projection of a supposed future.
    In truth all events can only be experienced in the present which itself is a mere illusion.

    Only consciousness endures.
     

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