Is It Wrong To Own Nazi Paraphernalia?

oh i agree

we had some stuff from NDH era, as well as communist stuff from the previous regime lol
why get rid of that stuff

 

Most Nazi paraphernalia or memorabilia or whatever you wanna call it is probably in the hands of families who have passed it down through generations or serious collectors

That stuff is probably out of the financial reach of your average idiot neo-Nazi anyways

 

Well, to be honest I couldn't remember the full spellings of their usernames and did not want to risk misspelling. And I was on my phone so scrolling back a few pages is a pain.

 

I think it as a question of conscience. In public it's illegal here in Europe. Some countries has a diverse history in natzism during WW2, which makes it hard to deal with even today. So, in private do what you will, but don't break the laws...I suppose...

 

Yeah.
For example, there are laws here regarding the displays of ustasha symbols (as well as certain chants and slogans, which is usually just an issue with football hooligans).
I know there were also initiatives to treat symbols of communism in the same manner, as it also was a totalitarian regime (Tito's Yugoslavia).
Dunno what happened to that. Too many ex-commies still alive and well, I guess xD

 

How very nice of you!

If we were Serbs, this wouldn't be an issue, and I could just write jufrimi instead of youfreeme.

 

No I dont think it is.
Its part of history, nothing more. To me items from eras past are just artifacts. Something left behind from a time long since past, that should be used as a remembrance of issues associated with that artifact. As a reminder of what was... in order to PREVENT History from repeating itself. Just because you own a Nazi flag or etc. Doesnt make you one. Same with a confederate flag, it is also an artifact. There are many important issues associated with that flag and the troubles our country has faced. These items are nothing to be ashamed of, They are nothing to be offended by, they are items to which you should derive knowledge and understanding from, to help move society forward. That's my view on the matter.

 

If i ever get my orange Opel Kadett it will have a confederate flag on the roof. I will happily debate anyone who thinks its racist or whatever

:cheers2:

 

why would you (want to) get an opel kadett

 

It's a classic of the dutch road. And easier to obtain than the american car the Dukes had. But as i recall most often in the same kind of orange

 

Some y'all folks wear a crucifix around your necks and displayed on your walls at home or around your vehicle rear view mirror and nobody really bats an eye at it. Just a normal thing to go around displaying, this torture device the Jewish Messiah was murdered on. May as well grab a little electric chair pendant too and hang that around your necks. or a lethal injection charm maybe even a gas chamber itself.

Ohhh but when somebody wants to display an old battle flag, god forbid, you can't fly the confederate flag you sick fuck.

Rocks in ya heads.

 

Everyone who wears historic militaria is scrutinized unfairly unless your Lemmy. If you're Lemmy you can wear whatever you want and get away with it.

Rocks out with his iron cross, the same iron cross I adorn around my neck too at times. I'm not sure what significance though, his iron cross was for him whether it was family or it just fit his fashion style I'm not sure, but a big thumbs up to Lemmy. unk:

 

It's different doing that in Europe I suppose. Doing that in America is a very clear sign of the person you are. You will make some friends because of it and some people will never speak to you for the same reasons. You probably will not have many black friends.

There were several reasons for the Civil War and slavery was a small part of that. But to me now the only reason you have that flag as an American is that you either dislike the goverment or like the idea that people will assume racism when they see the flag. You will upset people who have different politcal opinions then you the so called "snow flakes". It does not matter if you are actuly racist they think you are it's funny. It's not something I would ever own.

 

I get that you are a proud German and it's hard for history to shit on you but wow it's not the same thing at all even if Bill Hicks did point the same thing out in a funny way.

 

This. Displaying the flag on one's personal property was never an issue. The confederate flag is controversial because it was (maybe still is, in other states?) being displayed alongside the US flag on government property.

It should have been removed from all government property a long time ago as it is a historical relic and has nothing to do with modern government.

But people can and do display it on their personal property, and it does serve to immediately tell others what kind of person you are. So if people want to fly it, whatever.

But displaying it on government property is akin to displaying the swastika on German government property, which would be bizarre to say the least

It is a cool looking flag though, i've always liked the design knce you get past the negative connotations. So I guess I can see why it would hold a cool factor for europeans like asmo who are detached from the southern culture of people who still display the flag in the South today

 

I got that from Jeffery Dahmer.

 

I'm interested to know why it isn't the same thing though?

National Socialism isn't and never was a holocaust party in its initial state until the endlosüng, so if people can distinguish the difference between a religious symbol and a torture device why can't they distinguish the differences in this?

When the swastika became adorned there was no mention of the holocaust whatsoever and furthermore the swastika would be classified as a religious symbol in old Saxon and Norse mythology for it is the sun scross and a symbol I see a lot of the time in heathen contexts.

So once again we're just left with a salty society that won't let go over something that our generation never did and what never happened to them personally, that our elder religious symbols and artifacts are only going to be ever known for something that lasted 6 years in the mid 1990s. Because up until those 6 years you had that guy on the Time magazines world wide known as one the best political figures in history.

Sad.

 

around here it seems to just be a sign that you have no intention of ever leaving your shitty little hick town, and has nothing to do with politics or race. the idiots that fly the confederate flag on their shitty trucks while doing donuts around little kids at the public beach here are probably about 20% black, which is pretty representative of the overall population.

 

There's nothing wrong with having a private collection of any historical items, good or bad. It's part of history. I build scale military models and some car models. I have tanks from WWII including all of the German tanks. As an aside, when you look at the German tanks in scale next to the same scale Sherman tanks, you wonder how the Allies won any battle involving tanks.The German tanks were huge compared to Shermans and had thicker armor along with a more powerful main cannon.

 

Good point. If it's wrong to own Nazi paraphernalia then it would certainly be wrong to sell models of Stukas, Messerschmitts, Tiger Tanks, etc. And of course there are toy soldiers in the Nazi edition so kids can stage better battles. As long as you don't glorify Nazi Germany it's fine to own memorabilia from it.