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#11 PsychoDave

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Posted March 14 2017 - 03:26 AM

fuck off with the cam-site plugs...we all see thats what your job is...plugging sites ...so fuck off



op-why are you assuming we all feel like you do about being a productive person?....kind of sounds like you trying to make ''failure'' sound like a choice.....

 

Living in pretty poor country perfectly shows what I am talking about. People are working in jobs they hate, having families which consume most of their time, I have talked to few older people, most of them don't like their job, they do It because they have to, I am 100% sure I will never have kids, yeah, sounds like I'm young and just telling that but no, I really hate kids, after kids I have to spend all my time, money for them, I wan't to live for myself and I'm looking for job that fits me because I'm not like most my friends who know what they are going to study. As I have well paid job, which is 3-4 times more than average in my country. I'm planning to save up in 2-3 years and invest this money. Few of you told that agriculture is hard work, my relatives been in agriculture their whole life, I spent my childhood in farm. It's not like you have to grow crops or farm animals because these two take a lot of work, but you can grow fruits and make sweets from them or make wines, cider, you can also keep bees and harvest honey. 

I have also other options like renting inflatable attractions but in my country there is four seasons so this may work only in summer.

Renting flats is one of best options, all you have to do is to remind them to pay and receive paychecks and make sure they don't break anything but that needs a lot of money to buy flats.

I know I still have to work and that's definitely not a problem for me because I'm working abroad in psychically hard job earning twice less than people who live in that country. Come on, I know there is a way how to earn money living in countryside doing as little as possible, I just want to find the best one. If I had no money and I would wan't to sit at home and receive money, then yes, It's just dreaming, but I can save 30-50k euros (similar in dollars) in 2-3 years. Do you all think It's impossible to start nice business with this amount of money?



#12 morrow

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Posted March 14 2017 - 03:36 AM

I'm expecting spam from this troll any time soon!
And i think its close!

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#13 I'minmyunderwear

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Posted March 14 2017 - 03:56 PM

Renting flats is one of best options, all you have to do is to remind them to pay and receive paychecks and make sure they don't break anything

 

and get out of bed to go fix a leak on the fourth floor when someone in the basement calls at 2am to report water pouring through their ceiling (as you may have guessed, this is a situation my landlord had to deal with one night when i came home from work and found a flood).



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Posted March 14 2017 - 04:52 PM

i prefer to work for someone else. there are way more perks imo. like if the thing blows up, i just move somewhere else. plus i HATE doing accounting work/managing people. i plan on starting a business, but only as a solo side fun project, simply for the experience of doing it and not the income. so my advice is do something you would like to experience within your field. then change things around every now and then so you don't get bored. take chances, try to get different experiences, not because it looks nice on your resume, but because you find it fun and life is short.


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Posted March 15 2017 - 05:52 AM

and get out of bed to go fix a leak on the fourth floor when someone in the basement calls at 2am to report water pouring through their ceiling (as you may have guessed, this is a situation my landlord had to deal with one night when i came home from work and found a flood).

 

Recognizable issue :P But if I was a landlord I would avoid this by geting some kind of handyman or maybe even a professional company. I know it takes away from the profit... Pretty crazy to do such a thing if you can simply ignore the renters problems as well right (until the ceiling comes down) :P :D



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Posted March 15 2017 - 05:59 AM

Recognizable issue :P But if I was a landlord I would avoid this by geting some kind of handyman or maybe even a professional company. I know it takes away from the profit... Pretty crazy to do such a thing if you can simply ignore the renters problems as well right (until the ceiling comes down) :P :D


This works in a big apartment building. But if it's a two family house or less then the handyman might cost more than the profits.

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#17 Asmo

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Posted March 15 2017 - 06:04 AM

If the maintainance was really crappy before it might cost more than the profits indeed. Otherwise it is probably affordable. It takes away from the profits but you have happier renters.



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Posted March 19 2017 - 01:01 PM

profit without maintenance investment is theft.  whether it is rental housing, transportation infrastructure, or pretty much anything else.

and that includes paying everyone who does the actual physical work of maintaining it a living wage too.

of course you could include their living quarters as part of their wage, but only if it were provided at the same quality as your own.

 

persuasion and manipulation do NOT equal earning.

(planing and organizing does, but not the process of getting someone else to go along with it)


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#19 Fear The Wickerman

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Posted March 19 2017 - 03:49 PM

Yes, as Undies said: farm work is no glory.  You see people (especially younger, anti-establishment people) glorifying farm work constantly...but it is hard, time consuming, and unforgiving.  No time off, no physical rest, lots of damage from hard labor, and often times, no insurance (be it for your health, or your crop yield).  9-5's are cushy by comparison.  

 

 

And swivelling on a chair 9-5, 5 days a week in front of a computer, drinking coffee and performing endlessly boring repetitive tasks that don't contribute anything to the world is good for you?

 

The only down side to working for yourself if that it's really fucking hard to make any money. Other than that if you can make it work then it's always the better option.

 

The only reason farming might be a stressful burdon on your health is because capitalism made it so that farmers have to produce more for less, the same capitalist system that enslaves us into 9-5 jobs and pays us shit wages.

 

Enjoy your 9-5, I'm done with that shit. Any hours working for someone else.

 

I did all the work, and I helped to make a few people millionaires. Now I have nothing, and they are living a life of luxury out of all my hard work.

 

Oh, I feel really liberated now.



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Posted March 20 2017 - 03:24 AM

And swivelling on a chair 9-5, 5 days a week in front of a computer, drinking coffee and performing endlessly boring repetitive tasks that don't contribute anything to the world is good for you?

The only down side to working for yourself if that it's really fucking hard to make any money. Other than that if you can make it work then it's always the better option.

The only reason farming might be a stressful burdon on your health is because capitalism made it so that farmers have to produce more for less, the same capitalist system that enslaves us into 9-5 jobs and pays us shit wages.

Enjoy your 9-5, I'm done with that shit. Any hours working for someone else.

I did all the work, and I helped to make a few people millionaires. Now I have nothing, and they are living a life of luxury out of all my hard work.

Oh, I feel really liberated now.

Hm, I did't really say any of that, you took a lot of artistic liberty with the meaning of my post there. You are obviously passionate about the subject at hand. I don't disagree at all.

Luckily I don't have to sit at a desk all day nor do I work to make money for someone else. The thought it irksome, but I still think it might be better than full time farm work. Unless you work on a private family farm which you use to feed and clothe your own family, farmers are still making other people rich.

Edited by youfreeme, March 20 2017 - 03:28 AM.





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