Do You Identify With This Sceptred Isle?

^^ cool quote

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9TbiIEpZJ8

 

It's always heartening to see that, even as things swing further and further to the right, Britain in general maintains a healthy degree of scepticism about nationalism.

The history of this goes back to the battle of Cable Street in 1931, if not before.

On that occasion, the Blackshirt fascist organisations were marching through London in a Jewish district to show their solidarity with other fascist groups throughout Europe. They did so with the support of the police who were perceived to be taking their side. Jewish, Communist, Socialist and Anarchist groups blocked the streets and organised a counter demonstration, which turned into a running battle with police.

After this, new laws were implemented to maintain police impartiality and to prevent political uniforms from being worn in rallies. This more or less killed the NAZI movement in Britain (If they aren't allowed their shiny-buttoned jackets, they tend to lose interest.)

After that, the British mentality tended to associate national pride with more sedate, gentle things. Unlike our American counterparts, we are less likely to associate national pride with our military might and with images of masculinity and agression, and more likely to associate it with things like cups of tea,conversations over garden fences, cricket and the Times crossword puzzle.

This, it strikes me, is a very good state of affairs.

Somewhere deep in our collective memory, we still recognise that when people start talking about national pride and flags etc. they're generally about to ask two groups of poor people to kill each other.

It's not quite the whole story though. There are aspects of our national character that are deliberately downplayed by the powers that be. We have a rich history of political dissent, organisation and activism from the chartists to the diggers to the Levellers to the Labour movement. For successive generations certain forces have conspired to encourage us to forget this while they set about dismantling the institutions that previous generations have fought for. Now under the guise of austerity, they'll gut the country and turn the clock back on generations of class struggle, and they'll be able to do this because we've forgotten one of the most important aspects of our national identity.


It's not always just cups of tea and scones. It's organisation, protest, solidarity and no fucking Pasaran.

 

I saw this article on the British Empire on Twitter recently, which makes sober reading:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a7612176.html

 

I'm surprised they left slavery off the list. Also the disruption of traditional cultures in general.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1Hjntdd9is

 

Like all countries I guess ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I7yAC1Pz6Y

 

Somewhere in between what actually happened and the Sunday Gay boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk1wUKoXL20
The Morrisey song the world forgot

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk1wUKoXL20

 

Margaret thatcher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AvuweztG4Q hahahahahahahahaha

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFLn49lumcA

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ozOi5hoHD4

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cPitxtk4m0

 

I love my country.
It seems normal to me, to love your country.
The fat cats in Berlin can try all they want to stop that nationalistic pride, ain't gonna trickle down through my blood stream.

 

Uhm it's not that those 'fat cats' (meh at that as well) don't want you to love your country...
Same when dutch or british people declare that they're proud of the history of their country of course. Why act on such a statement like they're proud on the most abominable aspects... I love my country and its past as well. Doesn't mean im not aware or love the bad that accompanied this great past.

 

Because those fat cats once told me in school that my grandfathers were no longer a part of our history because they fought in the war. We were specifically told this, and it's the reason I was pulled out of school in Germany as a child and homeschooled.

That's what a Jewish teacher tried to teach us. A Jew, taught a classroom that if their German ancestors fought in the war, they were no longer a part of German history.

I will never understand most of the people living in this land for if a colored person says it's a shame to be white they will clap their hands and claim that's right and now a teacher can say your family killed 6 million of us you must deny your families history? Ugh. like it's my fault or something and still generations later it's my fault and I'm the one paying and stuff.

Reparations for something we didn't do, and what never happened to them. And our people "oh yep here's money and the suppression of our culture" that I am meant to simply just throw away the history of my family for signing up to the military for the single sole purpose of adventure and exploring the world, just like millions upon millions even billions of warrior around the world in all cultures and civilization had done in the past. To hell with that. Those gutless bastards make me sick always searching for some arse to lick.

Maybe some families ought to be ashamed for their grandfathers, but not me, and I'm not going down that route either. I will not be ashamed, I will not deny their existence for joint the army for education, medical advantages, a career on and on down to the least of the concerning what they thought they were actually fighting for.

That's not fair, don't expect me to submiss to that, I'm no coward.

What would Americans think if all a sudden, they weren't allowed to class their grandfathers as "Americans" because some African American teacher decided that, well, they're offended by a white classroom because their families may or may not have been around during the slavery period? Would they teach this in America?

If your ancestors didn't build any windmills then they aren't Dutch Asmo. That's how retarded the logic is.

 

Irminsul.. we are not responsible for our ancestors!
All we can do, is never let it happen again!
Your not to feel ashamed! No way!
History, is just that!

 

thanks. this is great info for this here American observer. as Glen said, "so true!" lol I think I learned the hard way, for instance, trying to get folks to open up about their emotions. ha! but it's a nice feeling when they do let me in ...although, am i now to expect a bottle thrown in my window?? ?

p.s. i quite liked the jousting on giant cats

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