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Will Trump Supporters Listen To The Warnings?




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#1 Balbus

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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:02 AM

It often seems to me that right wing supporters go with their gut rather than their heads. They can be shown the shit, and it can be explained what might happen when the shit is thrown but they don’t want to believe anything could be wrong right up till the shit actually hits the fan.

 

I remember the supporters of Bush jr and his mainly neo-con lead administration the opponents (mostly from the left but some from the right) gave the warnings but the support only began to waned slowly it was only when the fuck ups became so obvious that the once very vocal followers became silent.

 

(And I the trouble is I think even then many continue to be supportive of right wing ideas they just stopped been vocal about it).

 

This means that Trumps supporters are going to continue to give him support until things are so bad that even they can’t deny things have gone to shit.

 

Is like the boiling frog story they will let things slid and the rising heat until they are at boiling point.

 

The question is how do we that are warning about stuff get through to these people a bit sooner so that the shit doesn’t hit the fan and the mess might be too great to clean up?


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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:17 AM

I agree that many are going with their gut rather than thinking it through and trying to find a viable solution.

 

I think that immigration is a complex issue. I think that morally we're obligated to allow immigration into the United States by all cultures. But the new policy is intended to make America safer. More legitimate? I don't know. I think that immigrants stand to gain a lot by coming to this country though. And this policy claims to allow immigration, while implementing "extreme vetting" for those from countries effected by terrorism. Shouldn't the vetting be across the board to avoid discriminating against certain peoples? I think so. But we're not only talking about immigration...

 

As far as ignoring the warnings, I'm not sure what you mean. I read this morning that many mayors from so-called sanctuary cities are vowing to remain a sanctuary for immigrants. They will lose funding as a result. The President knows that he won't have their support the next time there is an election, but I don't think that will stop him for even a second. 

 

I think that these radical policies (I use the term radical for lack of a better word) will set a dangerous precedent though. 


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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:18 AM

 

 

The question is how do we that are warning about stuff get through to these people a bit sooner so that the shit doesn’t hit the fan and the mess might be too great to clean up?

I see little chance that anyone can. Probably, all this is going to have to be played out before any change will occur. We can only hope that the damage will not be so great as to be terminal.

 

May is flying off to meet the abomination today. My guess is she'll roll over and play little doggie. She seems completely out of her depth. That's not going to help at all. I hope this country isn't going to align itself with him, but I fear the tories will do just that.



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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:19 AM

I see absolutely no evidence that his supporters have a lick of common sense...or that they think he is doing anything that is not fine fine fine.

 

smh  

 

Remember when he said he could kill someone in public (in Time Square I think he said) and nobody would do anything - I'm afraid that is just how foolish people have become over him.  

 

If I live to be 1000 yrs old I will never understand this.  As far as I can see, these same people that continue to stand in support of him would be the same people that were able to follow Hitler and live with themselves as they took the Jews to the camps.  


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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:20 AM

Maybe if the warning is visualised as a pile of shit and thrown in their faces they might acknowledge something's off.
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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:26 AM

It often seems to me that right wing supporters go with their gut rather than their heads. They can be shown the shit, and it can be explained what might happen when the shit is thrown but they don’t want to believe anything could be wrong right up till the shit actually hits the fan.
 

I see the same thing with left wing supporters.
As for the title.
Trump supporters will just see him as doing what he said he was going to do as long as he keeps signing those executive actions.
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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:31 AM

Maybe if the warning is visualised as a pile of shit and thrown in their faces they might acknowledge something's off.

 

 

:rofl:   

 

 

:D



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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:37 AM

Actions and policies have outcomes, cause and effect, US foreign policy and actions in the Middle East have directly resulted in what is happening there today.

 

I remember when many opposed to the invasion of Iraq accusing the Bush Admin for going into the war to get the oil and this been very strongly denied by Bush supporter it was all about making the world safer and liberating the Iraqi people but now Trump is saying he would have taken the oil and hinting he would again if given a chance – and his supporters seem in agreement.

 

Thing is that anti-American feeling that often resulted in the insurgency and terrorism against US occupation and lead to ISIS  was in part fuelled by the belief Americans were there not to help the Iraqi’s but to ‘rape’ their country.

 

I can imagine ISIS and others spreading video’s of what Trump said at the CIA and rubbing their hands in glee.


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Posted January 26 2017 - 07:53 AM

Trump supporters will just see him as doing what he said he was going to do as long as he keeps signing those executive actions.

 

Thank you Pen, in a way that’s my point for example Bush and the neo-con had a huge amount of support for invading Iraq  but that support seem to come from the gut rather the head and it was based in large part down to lies and misdirection, many believing Saddam was working with al Queada and that he had huge stockpiles of WMD’s. This meant that they ignored or shouted down those pointing out the facts and warnings about the dangers.


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Posted January 26 2017 - 08:11 AM

I had a conversation with a trump supporter. This person said that trump can do whatever he wants as long as he gets rid of the Mexicans, and Muslims.

Here is the thing though. Trump supporters are not looking at the big picture.
To paraphrase the anecdote,
First they came for the Mexicans, and no one did anything
Then they came for the Muslims, and no one did any thing
And then they came for you. . . .