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Why Do Humans All Want To Know The Orgin Of The Universe?




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#11 guerillabedlam

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Posted December 19 2016 - 09:00 PM

The scale of the current Universe is so vast and mind-blowing that it's fascinating to ponder how it originated.  It's difficult to speculate what would be accomplished by knowing the answer of the origin of the Universe... It probably depends on what the answer is.


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#12 Asmo

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Posted December 20 2016 - 07:07 AM

It's one of those big questions that simply comes up when pondering our existence. It would be more intriguing if it was the other way around (to me). It's logical to wonder about this, and when we do, it is also logical to want to know the answer ;)



#13 Wu Li Heron

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Posted December 20 2016 - 08:26 AM

There's a new effort to design and build a gravity wave detector that can see all the way back to almost the Big Bang itself. Ordinary optical and radio telescopes can't see that far because the quark-gluon plasma that emerged from the Big Bang is way too hot and too dense and lasted for at least a hundred thousand years. Photons and radio waves would just bounce around inside the plasma randomly for eons. Ironically, the Big Bang was neither an explosion nor big, but a tiny little thing smaller than an atom that just got inflated all out of proportion. Knowledge about it is expected to reveal quantum mechanical secrets applicable to the world of the ubber tiny. 

 

For example, a simulation of the Mott Transition of a system from quantum mechanical to classical indicated that a sort of Goldilocks Principle rules the universe. This contradicts the predictions made, but they were all made using classical logic and mathematics which quantum mechanics are still formulated in. A similar recent study of the Mott Transition of a conductor to nonconductor established that long range forces are just as important as short range ones providing an explanation for things like superconductivity as reflecting the collective organization of the electrons and material. My own belief this simply demonstrates a recursion in the law of identity that makes everything resemble the Big Bang and the Big Crunch including, of course, the Big Bang and Big Crunch themselves which should resemble each other because existence itself is ultimately paradoxical. In other words, they'll eventually get total nonsense results from all their measurements.


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Posted December 20 2016 - 08:50 AM

Babylon 5 minbarian philosophy totally nails it. We are the universe trying to work itself out. Think of this thinking and existing in terms of a continuous self generating process rather than a separation from the universe. We're not here to observe, we are the observation. There is no purpose to existence other than to balance out the paradox of non existence. Words and thoughts are all part of the process of existing. Nothing exists as a fundamental thing. Nouns are brainwashing. All you can do is have fun, howl with wolves to quote Heisenberg. Get as high as you can while you are here, it won't bring you any closer to the answer than real science but it will be more fun

#15 Fear The Wickerman

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Posted December 20 2016 - 08:50 AM

Babylon 5 minbarian philosophy totally nails it. We are the universe trying to work itself out. Think of this thinking and existing in terms of a continuous self generating process rather than a separation from the universe. We're not here to observe, we are the observation. There is no purpose to existence other than to balance out the paradox of non existence. Words and thoughts are all part of the process of existing. Nothing exists as a fundamental thing. Nouns are brainwashing. All you can do is have fun, howl with wolves to quote Heisenberg. Get as high as you can while you are here, it won't bring you any closer to the answer than real science but it will be more fun

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Posted December 20 2016 - 09:01 AM

Babylon 5 minbarian philosophy totally nails it. We are the universe trying to work itself out. Think of this thinking and existing in terms of a continuous self generating process rather than a separation from the universe. We're not here to observe, we are the observation. There is no purpose to existence other than to balance out the paradox of non existence. Words and thoughts are all part of the process of existing. Nothing exists as a fundamental thing. Nouns are brainwashing. All you can do is have fun, howl with wolves to quote Heisenberg. Get as high as you can while you are here, it won't bring you any closer to the answer than real science but it will be more fun

 

Being clueless as to what he was actually saying, Murphy was an optimist and a happy idiot when he loudly declared to the world, "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong!" In the beginning, God farted which we now know as the Big Bang explaining why Murphy's Law rules the known universe.


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Posted December 20 2016 - 10:00 AM

Thanks chief

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Posted December 20 2016 - 10:07 AM

Thanks chief

 

Your most welcome since, of course, its all wrong!



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Posted December 20 2016 - 11:19 AM

Being clueless as to what he was actually saying, Murphy was an optimist and a happy idiot when he loudly declared to the world, "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong!" In the beginning, God farted which we now know as the Big Bang explaining why Murphy's Law rules the known universe.

lol

 

Sounds like something I would say.....



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Posted December 20 2016 - 11:40 AM

lol

 

Sounds like something I would say.....

 

Its quantum mechanics which, according to Richard Feynman, the minute you think you understand quantum mechanics you are wrong! The corollary joke being, of course, that if you believe you don't understand then you truly do comprehend because it never made any sense to begin with! The minute you either think you know the answer or don't know the answer you are wrong!






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