Greatest Army....

Discussion in 'History' started by autophobe2e, Aug 20, 2015.

  1. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    41 years is a HUGE difference with the rate of technology advancing. we arent talking about going from iron swords to steel swords.
     
  2. Ajay0

    Ajay0 Guest

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    Yeah, but what would prevent Vietnam from developing its own military technology or buying military hardware from Russia or China or other countries in the same time.

    In fact, it had been exhausted by its previous wars which were challenging in itself, had no industrial centre of its own, and had yet still gone on to defeat the Americans who had technological superiority and resources which the Vietnamese did not have even a fraction of.

    The position of strength is relatively in Vietnam's favour at this point of time as it has had enough time to build up a good military structure by now, backed with modern technology.
     
  3. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    what would prevent the us from dropping a couple nuclear bombs on the country....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45QJiADwGhE
     
  4. Ajay0

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    I was anticipating this. In that case the Americans would win the war on the basis of sheer technology and not because of any soldiering prowess on its part.

    It was probably the Soviet and Chinese nuclear deterrence , along with the potential for international condemnation that prevented the Americans from taking this extreme measure.
     
  5. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    well you dont get to make the rules of war...i will give you the Vietnamese are good at gorilla warfare...umm easy fix dont fucking go into the jungle.
     
  6. Ajay0

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    The Britishers also could have heeded that when they were in America. :)
     
  7. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I always loved the army of Poncho Villa. They served the best tacos.
     
  8. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Occupations don't work. Maybe that's the reason invading armies usually just conquer.
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJfsaUvr5o
     
  10. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    One wonders what would have happened:-
    If Leonidas would have had more than 300 Spartans (along with the Thespians and Thebans)
    If the Iceni tribe weren't so impatient when facing the Roman invaders
    If the Roman Empire had not been so large ti manage - and decadence was kept in check
    If the Native Americans would have had greater resources
    If the German War machine wasn't led by a leader who was clearly unhinged - so many tactical errors
    - Of their time, if ...
     
  11. gingeroot

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    Either the Mongols that fought literally anyone at anytime and just keep moving. No other army was that insane and powerful and scary.

    Or the Iroquois. Remember no one settled in N ortheastern United States for centuries because the Iroquois just would fight them off. Not Vikings not 16th century Europeans with guns. It took 90% of them dying from the flu before the Europeans could move in.
     
  12. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    The Mongols? Man, they never knew what hit 'em the closer they came to Central Europe. Came to a deadstop in western Poland. Couldn't fight their way into Germany. Stopped, turned back for Russia. Again, with allyship of Turkish invaders progressing north through Austria. Mongols once again lined up against the Polish heavy cavalry and took off before the fighting commenced. I'd like to know what took place in Western Poland for the Mongols to back away at first sight of the Poles the next time around.
     
  13. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Nazism was built under the fanatic devotion of Adolf Hitler and it was his military strategy which led to their eventual defeat.

    If Hitler had followed the advice of his generals the axis might have won the war, or at the very least extended the war long enough
    to broker a deal with the Allies.


    Hotwater
     
  14. Ajay0

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    The blitzkrieg tactic was actually fashioned by the German general Rommell who was a tactical genius and the best general amongst the Germans . Patton learned the same by reading Rommells books on the same and acknowledged it.

    Rommel was a great soldier and also a thorough gentleman who refused to obey Hitler's orders of deporting the Jews to the concentration camps from areas under his jurisdiction. He was chivalrous to enemy soldiers, even to a couple of British commandos assigned to kill him but was captured. Rommel spared their lives and just put them in prison.

    Rommel eventually was killed by the Nazis themselves for taking part in the assassination attempt against Hitler, and was forced to commit voluntary suicide.
     
  15. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I think there were greatest armies of their time, but trying to similiarize them is too difficult.

    There are even so many smaller battles where armies performed so heroic you could label them as the greatest just for what they had to accomplish. And it could have been a really small unit in Vietnam 400 years ago or something.

    I looked at this thread the other day and pretty certain I read "ants" and I agree. :D
     
  16. OldDude2

    OldDude2 Newbie

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    The Romans had the best army of all time.
    The Mongols were nothing without horses.
     
  17. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    LOL.......
    Vietnam was a testing ground for all the nifty gadgets that had been developed since WWII.
    there are reasons it dragged on.
    and America was not defeated by the "spirited" Vietnamese (LOL), America was defeated by the unpopularity of the war at home and loss of support from the citizenry, that and the fact that China was waiting in the wings with a couple million troops to send into the fray like they did with Korea.
     
  18. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Make armies great again.
     
  19. Rots in hell

    Rots in hell Senior Member

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    http://youtu.be/v_BK-kuQ-Fo
     
  20. Wu Li Heron

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    The Mongols were the largest, most expansive, and ruthless by far and leveraged simple organization and technology of the time to its full advantage. The Chinese "Warring States" period made them the most advanced having, among countless other weapons, invented steel and gunpowder centuries before anyone else caught on and many claim they could have conquered the world with the largest navy ever constructed, but decided to become insular instead and dismantled it in typical Chinese fashion. The Spartans had the most highly trained and dedicated warriors in all of civilization, but fell victim to their own success when money corrupted their militant society. The Romans invented modern bureaucracy and the modern welfare state, which is to say, they were the first to turn war into a franchise like McDonald's. They simply imported or confiscated whatever people, resources, and technology they required and couldn't produce themselves and even became famous for their short sword and the saying that "It only requires three inches of blade to kill a man" as if efficiency were the order of the day. The Spanish conquistadors deserve special mention for a few hundred men managing to conquer an entire continent of 25 million using every dirty trick in the book along with superior weapons and training. Immediately following the French Revolution, the French invented the modern military-industrial complex by introducing the first scholarships for peasants, which, was part of the reason Napoleon kicked all of Europe's butt some five years later. Today the US military is equal to the next six or seven largest in the world combined and is the first global empire controlling the economy of the entire world along with some 1,700 international conglomerates having fulfilled the dream of the Romans of turning the entire world into one giant franchise complete with its own complaint department known as the UN which, of course, they only pay half the bills for.
     

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