Communist party USA

Communism and it's close relative Socialism are forms of government that require the use of force imposed upon those who are most productive in order to support those who are not which eventually diminishes the productivity of all, and the well being of the society with the only exception being those who are in control. Only the most primitive societies can achieve and sustain something close to equality among all members.

 

I agree completely! The unions in my experiences have served little purpose other than protecting the jobs of the incompetent and the unproductive. But, they did provide very tidy bulletin boards.

 

Are you Karl Marx? Will the communist power that takes control be Karl Marx? If it hasn't worked in every instance as of yet, then what makes you think it will work now? Communism on a large scale is doomed to cause human suffering. A more free market with more corporate restrictions is a more sound path.

 

lol

 

Curious, but just how might a large population of diverse individuals be enticed to practice communism "properly"? Or must it rely on the force of an omnipotent government to impose upon the more capable to provide for the less capable?

 

The CPUSA is a joke, the party does nothing but sit around and complaine about how they could make America better.

Personally I am all for communism, I am a Marx leaning Stalanist. I believe we should be treated as equals but I also believe that some sort of authority is in order. Not the amount that stalin put into it but a good amount of leadership and a good amount control.

I could jsut go on rants about capitalism and even politics all togethor. but I am too tired.... Let me just say that I would prefer no political system at all but if I had to choose it would be marxism.

 

Those who like communism are free to join/form a commune, but of course you then are left with the problem of fulfilling all your wants, not to mention your needs all of which are more likely to be found where people are motivated by freedom to exercise their inequalities in producing your wants and needs profitably.

 

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The first paragraph of the Programme of the Communist Party USA:

"Workers of the world aspire to a life without war, exploitation, inequality, and poverty. They seek to build a better future based on democracy, peace, justice, equality, cooperation, and responds to a pressing human needs. This is the future - socialism, a system in which workers manage their own lives and destinies, and together build a better world. The Communist Party of the United States devoted to the struggle for socialism in this country. This document - the program of our Party, the statement of our goals and objectives, as well as a guide to action towards a Socialist United States of America. "

 

I am in favour of a form of green,reasonanble liberal socialism.No revolution as such but a gradual transition form the curent state of crisis in capitalism to a more egalitarian sustainable way of life.

It may sound impossible but is realizable,if unlikely in the present climate,where governements are just fronts for the banksters and corporations.If all the time and energy put into propping up the capitalist system were put into creating a fairer more ethical and equal system,it could certainly be done.And that doesn't mean putting everyone on an equal pay overnight and stifling competition completely.We need dialogue and exposure of alternative systems of government.We need to create workable models.We need to engage with the media and try and put good ideas forward so the general populace can get a better impression of what socialism could be.It has so many bad connotations.peace.

 

Will there be a band, libations, I'm in.

 

You have some models to look at, California, Oregon, Washington state, District of Columbia, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine and Hawaii.
If you really would like to get a better impression of what socialism could be, combine them into a separate economic group from the remainder of the States and then see which group prospers.
The problem with the Left is that they must impose their form of government upon those who disagree in order to have their wants and needs provided, otherwise they would set up individual States governments as socialistic or communistic forms, which would then require begging for aide from the remainder of the States.

 

I don't want to "impose any government".Just to educate and disperse information about a better way of living.It has to be democratic.This is the true heart's desire if only we could see it and feel it...What are you scared of Individual?

 

Capitalism imposes its form of government on us as if it was "the natural order".A patriarchal hegemony.The future is unwritten.Let's change it.

 

Why would you think I'm scared of something?

If you believe in the democratic process, form a movement to push for a Constitutional amendment to create a Socialist or Communist change to the U.S. form of government and see if the States would ratify it.

I'd love to know how you might go about doing away with capitalism. I raise chickens, how many would I have to bring in to purchase a new car, computer, IPOD, or even a coffee pot? Or would one chicken be adequate for one car?

 

You don't need a car, we will give you public transportation.
If you need a computer, you will be provided with one.
You do not need an iPod. No one does.
Coffee pot? Assuming you're trying to be funny here.

 

So my needs will be determined by the government?
Actually the coffee pot is the more serious item on the list as I drink 10-15 cups a day.
I imagine if cars were to be provided the Trabant would likely go back into production?

I guess there are those who would actually prefer to stand in bread lines and get their alloted rations, so this is how the Left would put Democracy to work? Simply majority rule, by a politboro? That's utopia?

 

The government is the people. If your community feels that you need these things you will have them.

Anyone can make coffee. You don't need a special pot. That said, a coffee pot is not on the scale of a car, computer or iPod. Of course you can have one. For people with unfortunate addictions, it is a necessity.

Trabant, hmm. I was going to say that as long as it gets you from A to B. But I have seen the Trabant in action. That is, on the side of the road, hood up. Better to take the bus.

You'll be asking for a Bugatti next . . .

I'm not going to answer your question about bread lines, as I'm sure you are aware that they have existed in capitalist countries such as the United States in the 1930s and 2010s. I myself have stood in them. Irrelevant.

 

So you would have to go before a group to request your wants and needs and gain approval or denial by a democratic vote? I would like a chocolate bar, all those who would grant my request please raise your hand?

Right, you could boil water in the can that contained the beans from your last meal.

I don't think there would be a market for Bugatti's once everyone was made equally poor.

In socialist countries bread lines are more permanent fixtures.

And what about those who prefer NOT to live under such extreme conditions? Would they be placed in a Gulag?

 

You always confuse Communism with Authoritarianism. Makes discussion difficult.

You also don't seem to get when people are having fun with you . . .