Methoxetamine is better than ketamine

There were reports of people taking it sublingually too when it first came about. I remember hearing good things from that ROA.

I guess the opiate comparison might make sense, i was certainly stuck to the sofa. Not that i couldn't move, more that i couldn't be bothered, was quite happy to just have a lie down.

 

Ketamine always reminded me of an opiate, a lil k and a lil weed is like an opiate high to me.

 

isn't MXE pretty expensive though

 

Compared to Ketamine, incredibly (in my area)

 

At the vendor im looking at and In my area, mxe is about 2 - 4 times cheaper than a vial of k would cost me if op's dose comparison is accurate.

 

MXE is cheaper than K for me too and actually much much easier to come by.

 

Ooops! Me too (see below)

 

*Edit* never mind i shouldn't be saying prices

 

Hate to bring this back from the dead but I must say sublingual doses of this are far superior to nasal. I have yet to have an unpleasant experience with single sublingual doses of 100mg. I would say, with no scientific guarantee, that if you are used to blowing this then I would cut the dose down and try it under your tounge.

 

Yeah that's for the big boy's

 

Idk what you guys are talking about expensive.... from what i gathered its going for 40-50/1gram.... shit its cheaper than some K that i bought

 

i prefer k.

 

Why do people prefer K ? is it because K is a branded name and its a non-research chemical ??

 

because of the effects i imagine. k is more friendly and tends to be less likely to cause manic/psychotic thought patterns that mxe and other arylcyclohexylamines can that are closer to pcp. you cant really achieve a proper hole on mxe, its kinda a thing specific to ketamine. mxe has its own hole but its not quite the same. a k-hole is abrupt destruction of ego and reemergence ... the mxe hole is different and less predictable ime.

 

cool beans, so Ketamine is like the Morphine of opiates?...

Do you think there's something else like Ketamine but better? why I ask this is because, well Ketamine is expensive, maybe something could be made more cheaply?

 

I prefer ketamine because it's like the epitome or class of these type of drugs. I'd consider it more the heroin of dissociatives, although I'm not all that familiar with opiates. Everything sought after for me in this class of drugs, ketamine has to offer. I find it to be!ore consistently fully enveloping, which I like. The only thing ketamine doesn't tend to do is have the manic edge about it as ace k mentioned, which many other dissociatives have and I don't find that particularly enjoyable or interesting.

No, I don't. I tried nor-ethyl-ketamine and mxm and the latter was decent but nowhere near as powerful or interesting.

 

lol no it's not.

 

Sublingual Mxe is the way to go.

 

MXM ... ie MXE where the ethyl has been replaced by a methyl ... is a lot closer to ket IME but less potent than MXE. It even tastes/smells more like ketamine but it still ain't ketamine. I think I'm done with dissociatives for a while, I feel they have nothing left to offer me, nothing yet to learn and have a dark side ... dwelling on dark nihilistic type thoughts and such. Last MXM hole was totally out of body, and had the realization that we're all just the same stuff/material being recycled over and over for eternity ... so we never really "die" but only occasionally become aware of what I just described and that there's really no point at all to this, this is just the way it is. A lot of my hole experiences consist of this idea, of being disentegrated only to be reintegrated and that this isn't the first time, or the last time this has happened. What I did like about MXM is the duration is shorter than MXE which is a plus IMO, since I don't have to devote and entire day to being dissociated. Ketamine is even better in this regard.

If i were to get the dissociative itch again though, it would have to be ketamine. It always was always pretty nice to me. I wouldn't fuck with too many of the non-arylcylohexylamine dissos like MXP and diphenidine ... those are sketchy as fuck.