What is better being homeschooled or public school?

the downside of paste is the bowel obstruction...

 

What do you consider the purpose of 'schooling' in the first place?

If it is to produce a non-thinking, docile, tamed, obedient individual; a less-than-parrot who - although he/she repeats what they hear - will forget it as soon as it earns them 'good marks'; a consciousness wandering pointlessly in an arid, sterile and featureless landscape - then you may well consider public school to be 'better'.

If it is to enable a child/teenager/individual to live (..within reasonable limits) according to their own will; to develop their full potential; to develop unfettered by the filtered intentions of insane and unreasonable minds - then (if you can) protect them from the afore-mentioned lunacy (..i.e. let them learn in freedom).

 

Show me the man who has enjoyed his schooldays and I will show you a bully and a bore.
Robert Morley, Robert Morley: Responsible Gentleman (1966) ​

Education, the great mumbo jumbo and fraud of the age purports to equip us to live and is prescribed as a universal remedy for everything from juvenile delinquency to premature senility.
Malcolm Muggeridge,
quoted in The Observer (1966) ​

No wonder that biographers have discovered that hundreds of thoughtful, creative, diligent human beings who later became famous hated school:

Rejection of the classroom is an international phenomenon and has little to do with whether the schools are public or private, secular or clerical, or with the philosophy of teaching employed in the various schools.
Victor Goertzel and Mildred George Goertzel Cradles of Eminence (1962) ​

So it's no wonder at all that perceptive teachers are among those most skeptical about the effects of school:

Together we have come to realize that for most men the right to learn is curtailed by the obligation to attend school.
Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society (1971) (In saying "we," Illich is referring to his fellow teacher, Everett Reimer, author of School Is Dead (1974).) ​

Teaching means different things in different places, but seven lessons are universally taught from Harlem to Hollywood Hills. They constitute a national curriculum you pay for in more ways than you can imagine, so you might as well know what it is. . . . 1. Confusion. 2. Class Position. 3. Indifference. 4. Emotional Dependency. 5. Intellectual Dependency. 6. Provisional Self-Esteem. 7. One Can't Hide. . . . It is the great triumph of compulsory government monopoly mass-schooling that among even the best of my fellow teachers, and among even the best of my students' parents, only a small number can imagine a different way to do things.
John Taylor Gatto, speech on accepting 1991 New York State teacher of the year award, reprinted in Gatto's Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling (Philadelphia: New Society Publishers, 1992), pages 1-12. ​

 

A lovely and substantial post squawkers - as seems to be the usual with your contributions. You're a breath of fresh air!

Thanks

 

Thanx, but not everyone here would agree with you lately.

 

I totally agree with both of you, DSLC and Squawkers7.



Public school teaches a lot more than reading, writing and arithmetic. When I was growing up I also learned to be competitive, judgemental, proud, a slave to the system, and ignorant to anything going on in any other part of the world. Along with ignorance, of course comes the lack of caring about what is going on with other people. Like my dear old fashioned Grandma recently said about the war, "Well, as long as it's not happening to anyone in my family, I'm fine."

I have spent the last 10 years trying to get rid of all of those qualities instilled in me, and I will not pass them on to my kids if I can help it.

 

I wished I was home schooled. There is nothing about real life that I had learned at school. School is a sheltered institution where the government carrys out experiments on you that will eventually lead to hate them. Well that was what had happened to me. I had the misfortune to be in school when they started introducing the national curriculum. I have heard from teachers also that the national curriculum sucks like an industrial vacuum cleaner as it doesn't allow for a child to nurture their own talents. Homeschooling would be better because you can tailor what you teach your kid to their own interests. Whats more you can teach them things that they don't teach very well at school. For instance you can give them sex education so they know what it is all about. You can teach them professional skills so that they will be highly sought after within the work place. Employers are dismayed at the lack of professional skills people have after coming out of academia. So if employers are thinking this then any arguements that public schools teach you anything doesn't stand. If I have kids the one thing I will certainly be doing is homeschooling them. I want them to be able to persue what ever their dreams hold unhindered in anyway.
Matt

 

And pick up the soap.

Also, I think public schooling is a far better solution. I was a nerd (and picked on), up until the point my muscles got bigger than the average 6th grader's. I also skipped a grade, so I was much younger than everyone. I still wasn't popular, mostly because I traded enjoying middle school for learning to use linux (I'm redhat certified, also know other variants -- namely suse, gentoo, and slackware) and unix (free, open, net BSD [net most familiar]). Only in the past three years have I started enjoying my life out of school.

On a note about homeschooling: my parents pushed me to learn far ahead of what was require, causing me to "burn out." By the 7th grade, I was completely fed up with school (and learning). I scored a 1200 on the SAT, and pretty much stopped caring. I started smoking weed in 8th grade, and decided to start bothering with school. I won't say I'm perfect in school, but it's improved significantly with less parent involvement. If nothing else, public school forces the student to take a more active role in learning. My parents, during and before 7th grade literally forced me to study. I recieved a 1020 on the SAT in 5th grade, and a 28 on the ACT. I was going thru wordly wise books like there was no tomorrow. In short, it sucked.

 

Public School and Private School help with the social development of all of its students.

At a school the student can take two paths.

One path is the student eventually adopts a social identity which in most cases of the newer generations is crammed in by their education, Network Television, Coca-Cola, etc. and becomes a member of the herd.

On the other path the student cant stand any more bullshit and totally flips the fuck out. Does something evil, insane, or stupid.


But there is also a third path. A small dirt path which goes around the right side of the evil jungle. a path on which the studnts sees past all the bullshit and discovers a life in which he or she and family can avoid the cable, corporations, and school.

Home school is the way to go! Learn the classics and history un-tarnished and teach your kids to live of the land. be totally self suffiecient. Develop your minds spiritually and ethically

 

Public school, Home schooling will only work if you are truley dedicated to do the work, if your a slacker in way shape or form the home schooling will not work for you in my opinion unless you got a mother or father pushing you to do it. All about self dedication or dedicated parents to make home schooling work.. but them home schooled kids were always a little weird, sheltered, been kept in a closet for to long.... If I could only choose one Public schools are where you learn street smarts. When was the last time your application asked you to name a verb, noun, chemical symbol for sodine, and who was the 27th presedent......


Mike...

 

I was home-schooled until sixth grade, when I decided I wanted to go to school. Up until about fifth grade I liked home-schooling a lot, I always felt bad for my friends who had to go to school. Then we moved to a new town, and all the people that I was friends with, who I didn't even remember meeting but had simply always been my friends, suddenly weren't there. Then I decided I wanted to go to school. My parents put me in sixth grade, and I did all right. Seventh grade, I started fucking up, I couldn't keep organized and so I never knew what my homework was when I got home, so I didn't do it. Failed seventh grade in all except gym class. Plus, I started getting into trouble, bringing knives to school, getting in fights, smoking ciggarettes, lighting the seats on the bus on fire, and eventually stealing and being caught by the police. My parents took me out of school, didn't let me go to eighth grade. Now I'm in ninth, and I must admit, it's not doing me any favors--I never feel bad about myself or who I am except in school, and I don't do as well academically in school as I do out of it. However, I can't let go of school because it's an excuse to see people every day that I wouldn't normally talk to, and to make friends with them. So to answer your question, I think homeschooling is the best. And private schools are lame, for preppy assholes.

 

So your saying since public schools dont accept your bad habbits, behavior and vandlism, home schooling is the way huh? Sounds like operator error to me, not the machine...... Only time can open the right doors sometimes....


Mike...

 

I think that public school is better you meet a lot of people there

 

All three have shown to work satisfactory. There is no one better in terms of education. Think of the child in question. Some can be rather shy and need to be in the public environment to grow and learn how to socialise, they would not get this home schooled. In terms of sport, private schools have shown to b more inclined to push this while public schools have it as compulsory. I went to a private school which was fine by me, but my sister hated the all girl aspect. My brother found private too strict. They finished school in the public system. I also had some schooling by correspondence but i found it hard to be motivated in the home. I personally think it's better for school and the home to be separate. If your child is easily distracted, then home schooling is not the best idea. Hope this helps, my family and i have had experience in all three aspects. Email me if you have questions.

 

I was homeschooled to the point that my mom handed me the books and said Go ( time was spent on my younger siblings.) If Homeschooling was the same as it was then I owuld have to say go one of the other routes but at this point my siblings are in a much better enviroment. My sister just went to the first anual home school prom in Houston. and they have been in a rather large group of Home schoolers for a couple of years. At the time that I was there the number of homeschoolers was minimall and it has grown substantialy.
The biggest problem I have come across was the fact that I didn't know how to deal with people when I got done with it but now that the community is getting bigger I have to say that I hope I can homeschool my own children when the time comes.

 

WHAT im 14 and im in tenth grade, im graduating when im 16.

SLOW!!! SLOWWWWWW!??????

ughhh

-rydns

 

They didn't mean as in "you're slow", they mean that it's a slower pace because you're going at your own speed and not having to go at the pace of others. Kids can learn at different speeds, have different needs. With home schooling, it's advantageous because you can go as fast or slow as you want, whatever suits your needs individually.


Plus, i was in my final year of school at 16, it depends on how old you were when you started school.

 

OK thanks for clarifying
sorry

-rydns

 

i think you cant have an oppinion until youve done them all

ive been in private asnd been homeschooled

so i gues i dont know if public is good or not

but i luuuuuuv homechooling its way better than private

 

Great summery of how I feel as well.......