You're Held Captive, What & How Long Until You Do Something About It.

Scenarios:
#1.....You're by yourself and someone taps you on the shoulder. You turn around....BAM! you're knocked out cold and taken captive.

#2.....one or multiple individuals run after you and take you captive.

These two scenarios could happen either traveling in another country or in your residence.
You could be held captive for hours-days-weeks-months-years. You dont know.

I'll never understand how some allow themselves to be held against their will, however long or short period of time. Especially in those quiet little neighborhoods where people walk their dogs daily.

I would take any chance to plot at either killing/harming my captor(s) or escape. I'd die trying both and yelling"fuck you"!.....Or if there would be no hope at all I'd starve myself out and contemplate suicide

Months? Years?... No fuckin way!

So...You're held captive, How long until you do something about it?......What would you do. Fight? Kill? Befriend? Die? Live with It? Escape?

 

If I marry into it, I'm going to wait until he passes out drunk on the couch and then beat him to death with his golf club. Then I'm going to bury the body in the backyard so I won't go to jail.

If I'm abducted by a stranger, I won't have to worry about going to jail. If I kill it'll be seen as a courageous act. I'm not sure tho, who you're referring to who allowed themselves to be held against their will in "quiet little neighborhoods where people walk their dogs daily". Perhaps you could elaborate.

 

Knowing me I'd end up with Stockholm syndrome and sympathizing with my captors.

 

Three Girls Missing for 10 Years Found Alive
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http://people.com/crime/missing-girls-found-alive-after-10-years/

Jaycee Dugard on Reclaiming Her Life After Being Held Captive for 18 Years
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jaycee-dugard-reclaiming-life-held-captive-18-years/story?id=40280031

These are the stories that come immediately to mind.
All those years and in a neighborhood. Don't understand why not fight to get free or die trying.

 

Its common sense to escape if:
- you can outrun your captors, which means you need to be physically fit
- you are alert at all times to see it coming in the first place, and not distracted by other things going on around you
- you're not tightly bound, gagged, blinded and constantly under surveillance
- you aren't drugged/sedated
- it's just you, and you haven't been captured along with your girlfriend, wife, your kid, or someone else important to you
- you know your captor(s) and their motives. If they speak a middle-eastern dialect, assume that it isn't going to end well, and simply go all out first chance you get!

 

Gina DeJesus did put a loaded gun to the abductor's head at one point and pull the trigger but the gun didn't go off.

 

depends on the living quarters i guess

and whether or not there is a rape schedule

 

I'd tell my captor I wanted a serious relationship.

 

i'm sure it depends on the specific situation. how good the opportunity for escape is versus how awful the conditions are. a smart captor would make it as comfortable as possible while giving you no real chance to rebel. a stupid captor would torture you and then leave for days at a time without effectively restraining you.

 

I'd dislocate all my joints so I'm a slithering glob of bones and then I'd just scoot on underneath the door like an octopus and then I'd shaken myself back together and seeya later, I gotta hitch a ride back home.

 

you are, in a sense, a captive of the culture that surrounds you,
almost from the time you are born,
and certainly from the time your parents begin enculturating ("raising") you.

captivity is a relative degree, though i agree my first, and i believe most reasonable response,
is to make every attempt to evade, resist, and remove myself from it.

practicality requires taking into account ones capacities and limitations,
and effectiveness depends upon doing so.

feelings motivate, that's fine,
but it takes logic to actually do anything effective about it.

i'm not a mcgiver genius, but i'd be strongly motivated that way.

giving up anything isn't in my nature,
neither is accepting the goodness of wishing to be feared.

would i give up being who i am?
of course not.
might i try to hide that if there were some tactical advantage in doing so?
of course.
the practical realities of the childhood i experienced on this earth required me to do so.

my parents were not evil or abusive people,
but like so many humans, often ignorant of their own narcesstic tendencies.

i don't know if i've ever, and certainly not often,
not felt captive of one or another combination of circumstances.

so one person or a group of person overtly,
you know, just my nature,
i'd find some way to sneak off,
and be looking to do so from the moment,
and that would never stop,
but i would try to avoid being to obvious about it,
in the hopes of wilful captors lowering their guard/forgetting this,
even a little.

every inch of increased odds of escape
is a penny earned.

 

oh i'd sympathize alright. i sympathize with everyone. but that doesn't stop me from having a low opinion of the inconsiderate.

i've been and felt all my life, a captive of a world, a species and a way of life i do not believe in.

its this proposition of doing something about it that has me curious as to just what and how,
other then increasing the consideration level, lowering the aggressiveness level,
of the surrounding culture, anyone expects to do anything about it.

a lot of people seem to think they can accomplish something by lashing out,
i know you're one of us who realizes the universe don't work that way.

its precisely because people are too busy hating and resenting,
when they aren't just as distracted by trying to impress each other,
that the very acts of doing so, are what add up statistically
to the very conditions that imprison all of us

all the time i hear people say they can do something about this by confronting or killing or taking a swing at something,
some one, always looking for some one to blame,
when its this whole attitude of doing so itself that is the prison and its wardens.

so, i guess its time for some popcorn to watch.

what people expect to accomplish and how.

its something easy to say, that we all want freedom,
we may need to define what it is that we want.

i think to me its not having to fear that someone else might not like one's own wanting to be creative.
neither money nor voting for the choice of personalities to be hierarchs,
or ostentation or any of it, are really any sufficient kind of substitutes for that.

i know 2/3rds of people are going to see this as off the subject,
but to me, the subject isn't anything else.

 

WTF!!!!????

 

I'm with you on all of that. The problem though remains - how can people become less aggressive and self-centered and more caring and co-operative....I wish I knew the answer. Some say aggression is hard-wired into us. I'm not so sure. I think co-operation is too. Without it we'd never have got this far. So in one way, maybe those dualists who saw life as a constant struggle between light and darkness had a point.

We send our kids off to school to get programmed with the same old fuck-ups. They go home, watch their parents fight, see a violent movie, go to bed and dream of crushing their enemies, or how rich they'll be one day.

Now I'm getting older and not in very good health, I tend to shut myself off from the wider world to some degree - an outsider might say I'm somewhat alienated, but really, it's from my own choice. I do see good people who do good things. Even small acts of kindness. Often they hardly get noticed, because the culture tells people that you've only 'made it' when you have far more than you need, and a bunch of attendant sycophants to tell you how wonderful you are. We're supposed to respect people who are some of the worst imaginable cases.

In the end it can easily seem that violence is ultimately the thing that rules the world. Maybe it's going to take the end of this cycle of human civilization and the birth of a new one before conditions can or will change in any meaningful way. I hope I'm wrong about that. I have never wanted the role of prophet of doom, but there it is.

And as I agree that we're all prisoners to some extent of the current dominator culture, I don't think you're off topic at all.