You Owe America A Debt Of Gratitude!!

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  1. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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  2. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    *ROFLMAOs* God almighty, I spose Gordie can say whatever the hell he likes now, no one listens to him anymore.
     
  3. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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  4. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    The world owes President Bush a huge dept of anti-gratitude in leading the world in encouraging terrorism....
     
  5. silverhippy

    silverhippy Comfortably Numb

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    Don't know what he said, I am not registered, but I would heap no praise on Bush, can't wait till he is gone, but we have nothing to look forwared to either, do you see who is running this time around, we are doomed. I don't want any of them in office. Doomed we are.

    Peace
     
  6. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    *giggles* *snicker* i just can't stop.
     
  7. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    i thought maybe you'd lost your mind for a minute, KC, when I read the thread title.

    i can't read the article in full either though as not registered at that site. is there a way to copy it and "quote" it into a post so we can all have a hearty laugh at what is bound to be sheer idiocy?
     
  8. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    Ha the world in general has been encouraging terrorism for many many years now...

    Without wars and borders there would be no active economy and no international trade...

    From the ground up the borders create a them and us syndrome that encourages competitiveness and the desire to succeed more than the nextdoor neighbors/neighborhood/city/state/country/etc..., and when we discover alien races the next door worlds....

    The US encouraged terrorism against the British back in the 1700s and that psyche has kept on going on a subliminal level ever since, incorporated into the cultural ideals. Then again the British encouraged terrorism against the US (think privateers etc.) at the same time, as well as earlier. Each country and empire that has ever existed has always rewarded and encouraged that state of mind from the earliest caveman days.

    The only way to combat terror and fear is to nurture a cultural philosophy that welcomes open borders, open minds and open hearts both on a conscious and unconscious level. Something that is hard to do because it is ingrained into the human soul to do better than someone else by any means necessary, whether it is by obvious or obscure means.

    The real battle against war/terrorism/cultural imperialism is a battle that has to be fought against our own human nature, fought on an individual basis and something that can only be won slowly due to our own human need and greed.

    Generosity in the face of defeat, and finding that calm spot of forgiveness and true love for another human being is the only solution.

    It is a hard battle because we are continually bombarded at home and away by the status quo and by the cultural hegemony in every aspect of media and life from age 0 upwards.
     
  9. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    love them or loathe them
     
  10. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    Brown upbeat on US ‘special relationship’
    By Alex Barker and Andrew Ward in Washington

    Published: April 17 2008 21:49 | Last updated: April 17 2008 23:22

    Gordon Brown heaped praise on George W. Bush with language evoking Tony Blair on Thursday, as he sought to overcome the impression that the “special relationship” had entered a cooler phase.

    Speaking at a joint press conference in the White House Rose Garden, Mr Brown said he stood “shoulder to shoulder” with Mr Bush in a transatlantic bond that was “stronger than ever”. “The world owes President Bush a huge debt of gratitude in leading the world in our determination to root out terrorism,” Mr Brown said.

    EDITOR’S CHOICE
    Brown urges US banks to be open on losses - Apr-16Editorial comment: Bankers seek help - Apr-16Q&A: No magic wand to boost housing demand - Apr-17Jobs figures bring welcome relief - Apr-17Labour market shows resilience - Apr-17Brown faces dissent from ‘ultra-loyalist’ MPs - Apr-16The comments followed Mr Brown's meeting with the three candidates vying to succeed Mr Bush, from which he emerged “absolutely confident” the future of the special relationship was “strong and secure”.

    In taking the measure of the next US president, the prime minister hoped to find fresh long-term purpose for a relationship that has become mired in the trials of conducting two wars and tackling a financial downturn.

    Relations between Britain and the US have appeared to become less close since the departure of Mr Blair, who had a particularly strong relationship with Mr Bush. Tensions have emerged with Mr Brown, particularly over policy in Iraq.

    On Thursday, Mr Bush and Mr Brown made a show of unity, delivering a tough message to Iran over its nuclear programme and advocating the widening of European Union sanctions against Tehran. Mr Brown pledged to talk to EU leaders in coming days to broaden sanctions to liquefied gas, sending “another signal to the regime that what is happening is unacceptable”. Mr Bush praised Mr Brown for his tough stance on Iran, saying “he sees the threat as I do”.

    Addressing the faltering world economy, Mr Brown called for “vigilance” and concerted action to restore international confidence but there were no specific proposals from the two leaders.

    Turning to Zimbabwe, Mr Bush chastised President Robert Mugabe for presiding over a sham election. “What kind of election is it if you [do] not let the will of the people be known,” he said.

    Both leaders were at pains to stress the enduring strength of bilateral ties, referring to the “special relationship” a dozen times. Disagreements over strategy in Iraq, highlighted by recent fighting in Basra, were glossed over. While some US officials are privately critical of the UK’s handling of southern Iraq, Mr Bush chose to praise the heroism of British troops, while Mr Brown pledged there would be no “artificial timetable for withdrawal”.

    Iraq was among several topics – including climate change, Iran and Afghanistan – on the agenda for Mr Brown’s meetings with Hillary Clinton, John McCain and Barack Obama.

    Few details emerged from the meetings, save for accounts of conversations about Mrs Clinton's Welsh grandmother and pictures of Mr Brown bearing a fixed smile, strolling through the corridors of the British embassy with Mr Obama.

    Amid the pleasantries, however, there was room for disagreement. Mr McCain has expressed disappointment about the UK troop drawdown in Iraq, while Mr Brown's pro-trade instincts clash with the protectionist rhetoric of Ms Clinton and Mr Obama. But Mr Brown believes there are important areas of agreement, particularly on climate change, with whomever is elected. The change of administration is, in his mind, an opportunity to recast relations across the Atlantic.

    Convincing the candidates to leave the campaign trail to meet him was perhaps the biggest coup of Mr Brown's trip to America, which has been eclipsed by the Pope’s visit.

    Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008
     
  11. Roffa

    Roffa Senior Member

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    Well he should know ...

    You have to laugh - here's a man whose election as US President was ... controversial, standing next to a man who has not been elected as the UK Prime Minister, presuming to lecture other countries about open and fair elections.

    Anyway - re that debt of gratitude, can we pay it in crates of tea?
     
  12. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    "we should be gratefful to the americans, if they hadn't funded the IRA for 30 years wed have no idea how to deal with terrorism"-Al murray (great thinker of our time lol)
     
  13. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    Bush is a master of accidental irony, I think he said something the other day along the lines of "We need to punish these people for exploiting religion to fuel violence* , that made me laugh bigstyle.
     
  14. Roffa

    Roffa Senior Member

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    apart from NORAID, the IRA also had substantial support from Libya ... strange bedfellows indeed.
     
  15. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    I must admit, I prefer Gordon Ramsey, than Gordon Brown. Basically, Gordon is sucking up to America, trying to get into Bush's pocket. Next thing you know, we will be holding parades down Oxford Street. Little girls with pom poms, tall green hats being followed by a procession of such floats as Duff, Budwieser and the Dallas Cowboys.

    I owe America no debt of gratitude. It is because of the American Housing crisis, that the whole world now faces a longterm recession. You mark my words, in the next decade, there will be massive redundancys and a British housing crash. In 2010, Docklands will no longer be a place of business. Most new investers will go somewhere else(Non Doms will have to pay a tax)

    I suppose the one thing I am grateful for is:

    The Simpsons
    The Sitcom
    Dinner foods
    NHL
    NFL
    NBA
    Nascar
    GreenDay
    U2
     
  16. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    that'd be very nice. i'll pm you my address. ;)
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I guess this would fall into the category of: What in the World was he thinking?
     
  18. The manticore

    The manticore Member

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    bush is a joker
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    But his jokes don't make me laugh!
     
  20. phoenix_indigo

    phoenix_indigo dreadfully real

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    an American election maybe?


    wow, that bit made me laugh, especially. :lol:


    thanks for copying it KC :D
     
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