yoga makes me feel weak and shakey

Discussion in 'Yoga and Meditation' started by kansas, Sep 30, 2008.

  1. kansas

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    I've got this yoga video
    and everytime i do it afterwards i feel kind of sick

    i just now did the video and my arms and my neck and my back feels weird and weak
    and i feel shakey
    this always happens!
    i dont know why
    it might be because im sort of shape and not used to doing it
    i normally do it maybe once or twice every few months because i want to try to do it but i feel so terrible afterwards

    it doesnt feel too relaxing either
    it takes me a while to actually feel alright doing it, then i start getting tired during the middle and feeling like im going to pass out

    its crazy
    should i just try to meditate instead?
    i want to be flexible and toned and everything but
    i just dont have any motivation after feeling sick like this to do it again anytime soon
     
  2. stalk

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    sounds like detox
     
  3. kansas

    kansas Member

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    what do you mean?
     
  4. blackcat666

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    what your experancing during a yoga session is relaxation. your nervous system is highly stress out. what you call "weak and shakey" is relaxation. it is also called the 'relaxation response.' let me put it this way. your brain is like a switch. the switch can be turn on to 'stress' or, turn off to 'relaxation.' just like a light switch when it is turn on, the wires in it become stressed by the flow of electricicy through the wires. when the light switch is turn off, the electicicy stops and the wires relax. the same thing is happing with you. the yoga turns off the stress switch in your brain. when your not stressed you feel 'weak and shakey,' that is relaxation.

    when stalk says your 'detoxing' stalk is refering to the toxic chemicals exscreated from your adrenal glands when your stressed; those chemicals are called 'corticoids.'

    your stress switch is stuck on 24/7. you only turn it of for a short time when you do the yoga. you have been stress so long that your body does not longer remember what relaxation is. your body has been condnation to understand that stress is "normal" and relaxation is "adnormal."
    i have seen alot of this and each person who has not stuck with a relaxation program have all died at young ages.

    medition would not work well for you either, becaused your too stress out. i would recommend that you start out with progressive relaxation. if your in psychotherapy, as your therapiest if they know and can teach you progressive relaxation. you can also buy a casette tape on progressive relaxation and a workbook entitled: 'the relaxation and stress reducation workbook." you can order both of them from barnsandnobles.com and amazon.com.
     
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  5. plebe

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    I'll offer my diagnosis, too, even though none of us really knows what is going on. I would guess that this yoga tape of yours is probably aimed at what would be considered a "normal" person. They are probably fairly physically fit and used to doing various types of exercises. It just may be that you are trying to do too much at once. My guess is that you need to develop a certain level of fitness before you can take on the tape as it is presented. I would suggest that you start doing half of the tape at a time, but get used to doing it regularly. I would probably do half every day (1st half one day, second half the next) until that became comfortable and then add the two together. Depending on your personal fitness, you might want to do half every other day. The idea is to be gentle with yourself, but to strain just enough so that you build up the muscles and stamina over time to make it all the way through without strain or discomfort. It's like if you wanted to run a marathon, you wouldn't just go out and try to run 24 miles the first day. You would train at shorter distances, varying between faster and slower speeds to build up stamina and muscles to carry you the entire way. You can also start regulating your diet to include more healthy foods and less unhealthy foods. This will help a lot. Exercising once or twice a month will do nothing for you. You need to be exercising at least 3 times a week to maintain cardiovascular fitness and muscalature. When I started doing yoga, I also started walking daily for a mile or so. You can meditate while you walk. I don't know what type of yoga you are doing or what the positions are, but I do know that some of them are quite difficult and require some strength to attain the requisite posture. When I was younger and riding my bicycle 20-40 miles every day, I had trouble with some of them until I was able to build up those muscles. If this is your only form of exercise, you can't expect to just be able to do them out of the blue. I'm in my mid-50s now and my joints and bones hurt more than my muscles when I do yoga. Be gentle with yourself.
     
  6. mariecstasy

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    I've only ever felt weird sensations from yoga when it is near my moon cycle.

    Have you gone to a class? It could be the video doesn't allign with what you need?
     
  7. kansas

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    that sounds exactly right
    i have been sooo stressed
    since ive stopped smoking da urbz
    its probably because i was doing it everyday and i just got so used to it

    whats progressive relaxation?
    do you think maybe walking would help me?
    because that sounds good and easy
    and maybe it'll help me relax who knows
    or maybe fixing my problems will help me relax
    thats what im thinking maybe
    im doing terrible in this one class
    and i have to face that everyday, cause ive got the class everyday
    ive got to move soon and i dont want to
    ive just got a lot on my mind that i cant even think
    its terrible
    i dont go to a therapist but do you think i should?
    sometimes i feel if i tell too much & they understand
    i no longer feel unique
    because my feelings are me
    i dont know how to explain but yes
    would progressive relaxation maybe be something like
    breathing?
    we have a cd called "meditation made simple" and its basically just a breathing meditation
    i dont really want to buy anything
    maybe i could look online for some progressive relaxation?
    ill check google or something
    thank you so much for telling me this
    ive been thinking all day about it and it really makes sense
    because i only do yoga when i have so many problems and i want to do something to fix it
    so i try
    but it just doesnt work
    probably because im so screwed up
    thanks though! how do you know this?
     
  8. kansas

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    Well I'm pretty normal, i do exercise
    i just meant i do the yoga tape that often, but i do other things to
    like i walk all day pretty much
    the poses arent hard for me to do really
    i think its just what they said above
    the detoxing and my stress level and everything

    its afterwards when i start feeling weird
    i still feel weird right now
    like sort of sick to my stomach like something is probably happening
    probably trying to get rid of stress
    but yea im going to start walking more
    so are you saying bicycle riding is bad if you want to do yoga or good?
    because bike riding actually sounds fun now that i think about it
    ill do it if it'll help me!


    well i dont know if i should do it everyday
    because the post before yours blackcat
    she said i should get used to progressive relaxation first before i do it too much
    i do feel kind of like im detoxing and i think too much could be bad for me if i try to do it all at one time
    when im not used to relaxing
    because everything he/she said seems really right

    im trying to be gentle though
    thanks so much for your help
    <3
     
  9. kansas

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    moon cycle? ive never understood that stuff but ive never looked too much into it

    yea i feel weird sensations like a head rush and like a light feeling while im doing it
    but its only afterwards when i feel bad
    or near the middle

    i havent gone to a class
    i cant really afford it, i dont have a way to get there and back
    yea it probably doesnt
    i dont feel right doing videos
    i just feel like its unnatural
    but thats the only choice i have right now
    <3
     
  10. plebe

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    It sounds like you are homing in on what's wrong. That's good. To answer your question, bicycling should be fine while you are doing yoga, and yes, it is fun, too. As for the stress, I think you need to look at why you are stressing out. I can understand that you have a lot on your mind. However, you don't need to stress/worry about these things. They will work themselves out. Focus on what you want to accomplish, then relax and let the universe bring it to you. Therapy might help you learn to deal with this. I've recently read about a couple of techniques that do a great job of helping to deal with stress, anger, etc. One that is purported to be very effective is called WHEE, which is an acronym for the two therapies it was derived from. Here's a link to a website to check out: http://www.wholistichealingresearch.com/wheearticles.html
    It may help. Love to you!
     
  11. kansas

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    yea i think i understand a lot better, i love hipforums everyone knows all the answers :] hah but yea oh i just meant do you think biking would help me with it to be more strong i guess
    ive tried to figure out whats stressing me, i mean i know most of it but its all stuff i have no control over, like we're moving and i dont have a choice just all this little stuff
    you think they'll work themselves out haha my problems?
    well maybe i will
    i was just talking to a girl today
    and i was like, i cant come to your house because then ill forget about my problems and then they'll never be solved
    and she was like "sometimes you think things are problems and their not"
    and im like but these are and shes like oh i know you've got problems
    ahah
    well you know anyways im glad that happened because it made me realize that i do take too much time worrying about my problems
    maybe they will work themselves out
    but i figure that they will just be forgoten and pile up & come up some other time
    thats happened a lot so i guess now i figure ive learned my lesson and i want to deal with them now in some way
    i cant put my finger on exactly what i want to accomplish
    there are so many different things i can & want to do
    but nothing sounds like
    " i am absolutely going to do this and love it for my whole life"
    i just feel something in the back of my head that would be like
    "this wouldn't be bliss"
    i dont know what i REALLY want
    well except to live in the wilderness
    im going to do that but what else? i want to do something constructive in my life like help people and forget about myself
    & i might just go to therapy sometime
    but ill have to go to a different therapist then my last one for sure
    shes a church therapist and my mom used to make me go so i went with it and told her everything
    and she was starting to scare me she was like
    " i really should tell your mom this stuff"
    i thought it was supposed to be confidential!
    i wasn't hurting myself or anyone, just smoking some herbs and she would make me pray with her to god that i would stop
    just whatever its crazy im going to a different onee
    for sure for sure
    anyways
    thank you so much
    love to you also!
    <3
     
  12. plebe

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    The key to problems is figuring out which ones you can do something about and which ones you can't do anything about. Do the things that you can to solve those problems you can do something to solve. The others, ignore or change your attitude about them, then deal with the consequences. That's really all you can do. Worrying is wasted effort, energy, and time. Plus it's not healthy for your body.
    Meditation and yoga are about focus and concentration. I guess I used bicycling (and other activities) as a strengthening exercise. Even when I didn't really feel like riding, I made myself get out there and do it. Many times I would ask myself why I was doing this to myself. I never really had a good answer. But now I see that it was preparing me for this meditation thing. At first I had to exercise my will to make myself meditate every day, twice a day. Now, it's no problem and I can add hours here and there with ease. It's a mental discipline and quieting the incessant chatter of the mind is another discipline that is much harder. I used to chant mantra while bicycle riding, but mostly it was to stay in shape and have fun with my friends.

    You may want to read some of the stuff over at the World Mind Society (http://www.eoni.com/~visionquest/library.html), especially the "Special Tools for Expanding Consciousness" and "The Survivalist's Guide for the New Millenium" sections. There is some very useful information there and you may find something that will help you clarify your life's direction for the time being. I've had the same feelings as you do about living in the wilderness (a dream for many years) and helping others. My decision has been to go ahead and be selfish for now by working on myself with the intention of gaining the tools to be a more valuable helper in the future. Hopefully by healing myself and coming to know my life's purpose, I can make myself more useful. It's something we all have to deal with sooner or later, so don't feel alone or different. You are experiencing what you need to grow.
     
  13. kansas

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    wow thank you so much
    yea im going to go to that website
    i used to go to www.rainbowcircle.net
    but its changed a lot since when i joined
    it got me interested in the unknown and different ways to look at life
    before i was a totally different person
    after for a few months i was always happy & i had so many positive thoughts
    i also took medicine for depression then so maybe thats what it was
    i stopped because i thought that maybe it was holding me back from feeling everything that was possible to feel
    but now i look at myself and im just miserable to an extreme
    ahhh anyways i wrote a lot more if you want to see it just read my journal i posted it there anymore because i figured you probably wouldnt care bout all that jazz
    but i wrote about everything and i actually feel a ton better but im going to stop worrying about things and just hope everything works out
    and i know its not good for my body my shoulders are sooo tense
    i can feel myself dying anytime now
    if i dont do something about this
    i just need some way out of all this miserableness
    meditation and yoga should be very good for me right now then because i have been having a hard time focusing & concentrating
    but i dont even know if i could make myself do it with all this other stuff on my mind
    but i feel like its been swept clean since i wrote so
    im so happy for that small thing that made me feel better, i would have never thought but i have heard that sometimes talking about things makes it better
    i tried talkking to people about it but i always figure this is too much
    because i just dont want anyone to hate me on top of it all
    i only have my brothers bike
    i dont love it too much
    i guess because its pretty uncomfortable, its a boys bike
    & i dont love riding bikes enough to ask for one or spend my money on it
    so hopefully someone will give one to me or ill just live with my brothers bike

    that sounds good because even when i was pretty happy and "free spirited" as i was during that one period of time
    i tried meditating and it just wasnt working out for me
    i tried it maybe once a week or i gave up sometimes
    nothing much ever happened
    what happens for you when you meditate?
    well anyways yea nothing really ever happened
    soo i guess i just stopped
    i try sometimes, last night i tried but i was just laying down
    about to go to sleep and i just ended up falling asleep

    anyways
    i only know and understand one mantra and its om mani padme hung
    i know thats not how its always written but you might know which one im talking about
    i think i learned it yesterday
    but im not really a buddhist or anything so i dont know much about it
    and i dont know if chanting mantras is okay for me to do & if they would work or do anything?
    i dont know much about them
    except that people beleive that they can help you in ways like for the am mani padme hung it said that theres not a real translation but that it helps with compassion
    im going to read that
    and i know what you mean! about trying to heal yourself first so you can help other people and be purposeful well im trying to do that tooo
    it seems like my life has been compacted in these young years
    i dont even know how to put it into words i just feel like
    my life is almost over sometimes
    it might actually be because of being stressed i know its not good for you
    anyways
    thanks so much for everything
    <3 love &light

     
  14. plebe

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    I've had some miserable times in my life, so I can relate to how you feel. I'm sure you already know this, but we can only make ourselves miserable. That's not going to make you feel better right now, but over time, perhaps you can come to feel this inside yourself and decide to quit being mean to yourself. It takes time. Tell yourself that you are making progress every day. Find ways to remind your self every day how wonderful life is. That picture you have in your posts would work for me for awhile.

    By the time I was in my mid-twenties, I knew pretty much everything about God and our oneness that there is to learn intellectually. I dabbled with meditation and yoga over a period of about 6 or 7 years, but wasn't really ever serious or consistent with it, even though I had the time and a small inclination. I guess I preferred grasping it intellectually to feeling it. Then the whole thing went away for me for many years. About two years ago, I started feeling cynical, especially about organized religion. Then about 5 months ago, I stumbled across some near-death-experience stories and one thing lead to another. I decided to jump in with both feet. I started meditating for at least 10 minutes twice a day. (That's now turned into at least half an hour twice a day.) I also chant mantra whenever I am in my car or not mentally occupied with some task. I also try to remember to do it while watching TV or reading although it's harder to maintain then. When I'm at work, I set a timer to remind me to stop and meditate for a minute every half hour. I just try to do as much as I can throughout the day. The best experience has been meditating with a group of other people and joining some of the global meditations. Lots of good vibes.

    Here's the progression in my experience since starting: When I first started, there was just the relaxation. Sometimes I would kind of nod off, sometimes I would be too antsy (restless leg syndrome or too many itches making my muscles spasm), and other times I would just be able to relax fully. Fairly quickly I started to hear a ringing noise or a high pitched tone. It would come and go but when I was meditating, I would always hear it. As time has passed, it has increased in frequency (pitch) and has now gotten to where the only time it stops is when I'm so focused on something else that I don't notice it. I'll get these odd little higher frequency noises that come and go, too. I've also changed my breathing. I breath more deeply more of the time and especially during meditation. Once I've reached a deep meditative state, I can breath very slowly and/or shallowly. I can't do it when I'm not meditating. I've been working on opening my chakras and can quite often feel a vibration at my third eye. I also run energy through my chakras on occasion and can definitely feel that. Over the past month or so, I've finally been able to start feeling a very deep calm that I can stay with for more than an hour. It's a lot like when I wake up in the morning and drift between sleep and wakefulness except I never fall asleep. Just in the past two weeks, I've started to get the blissful feeling. If you've ever dropped acid, you probably know what I'm talking about. It's an intense feeling of absolute joy that permeates your entire being. A huge grin appears on your face and your whole body becomes rigid with absolute bliss. It drops by randomly and hasn't yet occurred while I was meditating. For the past two-three months, I have been experiencing stretches of time where I am just observing. I'm not thinking about anything for a change. This is a really cool thing to do while watching a funny movie or a comedian. Even a tear-jerker if you want a good release. Your emotions free up because your mind isn't getting in the way. It's not interpreting and telling you what to do or how to react, you are just pure feeling. I'm feeling healthier, I deal with unexpected problems more easily and without reacting as much. I'm learning more. There's just no real end to the improvements I'm seeing and feeling. There are more things that I want to try than I have time for. In short, it's amazing and just confirms all the things I've read over the years. You do have to be consistent and do it every day. The rewards are huge.

    I used Om Mani Padme Hum for many years. The best definition I've read is "By dependence on the practice, which is an indivisible union of method and wisdom, I can transform my impure actions and thoughts into the pure actions and thoughts of a Buddha." From what I've read, it does no good to chant mantra unless you know what it means. I switched to Om Namah Shivaya which means "I bow to Shiva", who is my Self. There are many paths. Meditation, yoga, mantra, are all paths and which ones you choose should be the ones that feel most comfortable for you. Some people use martial arts or dancing as a method. Those don't appeal to me, for instance.

    Stress can be a killer. Most of us can handle quite a bit. Finding ways to relax and mentally calm yourself are crucial. The herb worked well for me for many years and still does. If you are into music, that's another good way to calm yourself. There are many good artists out there making relaxing music. If you mostly listen to head banger music, rock, or C & W, you might want to take some time every day to listen to some soothing music.

    I watch this youtube video at least twice a day and most days 3-5 times. I cried the first time and a couple of other times, too. You'll need headphones and know where to plug them in. I downloaded it onto my computer using Real Player and then converted it to MP3 so it would play with any kind of video player. If it doesn't relax and soothe you, nothing will. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6F0szmp4Y Enjoy!
     
  15. kansas

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    yea im sure i do make myself miserable ive got to learn how not to
    life is beautiful i just feel mentally unhealthy lately like
    kind of like a bad person a lot of the timee
    and i just think i was to have a beautiful and free heart
    but theres a lot keeping me back, im just not sure where to start taking all it down
    but wow so meditation has really helped you be happy and blissful?
    yea i know that feeling ahaa the acid happiness feeling
    that would be so great to actually feel like that naturally
    ya i might look up some chants
    i think thats very interesting
    i was to learn more about it but i dont know if they have like a book full of buddahs teachings or something because i saw the buddah book that was written but i dont think thats really what im looking for
    yes i sometimes feel like it is killing me
    like everything in me is going to r uins
    and ive been trying to fix everything but it doesnt seem to help sometimes
    im going to read the website you sent be before but yea that video made me feel a lot better thanks
    <3 i wish those things were true for me
    and i hope they are or will be for you
     
  16. mariecstasy

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    moon cycle just means you are menstrating.
     
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    hey kansas and everybody.
    i just goggled feeling strange after yoga and found out your forum.
    i did yoga few years ago together with some psychology and meditation, i felt strange so i stopped, i felt panic about it and thought i was going crazy from the spiritual practice or something.
    last week i went swiming but a day later i felt those feelings again. yesterday and today i did some yoga positions at my home with breathing and now i feel like this again..
    i want to ask kansas, did you feel diferent after long time of trying?
    and i want to ask blackkat666, what did you mean all the people that did not stuck with the normal stress plan died at a young age...you got me worried now :)
    i am trying to reduce stress for long time, everybody suggest i will take some medications for that but i feel its not the right way.
    love to hear what you have to say, and i am sorry for my english i am not american ;)
     
  18. Spiritlite

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    It could be that your nervous system is getting back into shape. Yoga does seem to help cleanse and clear as well as strengthen your nervous system (aka all the nerves in your body which can be affected with stress). What sort of yoga is it? Are there many spinal twists?
    I have used Wai Lana DVD's for YEARS, she's very gentle, and has beginners, to mid to highly advance, and she's also very gentle. I also suggest that you hit the pause button after every single pose and get into child's pose for as long as you need. I also suggest that after your yoga workout you hit the pause button, put on music, lie in shavasana (dead corpse pose) and relax each and every single muscle in your body. How are you eating? What physical shape are you in already? I feel personally that it's your nervous system detoxing.
    Remember too that yoga does cleanse the chakras and the energetic body as well so you are unblocking.
    But again I highly suggest Wai Lana you can get hers on Amazon or her website wailana.com
    With love
    Spiritlite
     

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