XTC-some general question and some TIPS

I have been looking up ways to increase ones role while on E, does anyone know anything about taking melatonin while rolling. Anti-Oxidants almost completely negate the neurotoxic effects of E and melatonin is a powerful antioxidant which is totally harmless. Ive also hear of people having weird experiences while taking high doses of melatonin so I wondered if this would increase the roll or at least help with the come down as seratonin is used to produce melatonin in the brain. Also Ive heard of these; St. Johns Wort, B-12, 5-HTP, 2C-B, does anyone know of any affects these would have on an E trip, Know of anything else?
Also, my friends and I have like "tricks" we do on E, The Elevator, The Steam Roller, The Roller Coaster...Its like things we do that trip you out.
In the Elevator two people hold each other on the shoulders and kneel down breathing heavily until you feel a light-headed feeling. The you take a last deep breath, come up very fast, hold it for a minute and release. It feels amazing like being born again. Though people have blacked out and Ive heard this can be dangerous so I wouldnt recomend it and dont endorse it.
The Steam Roller is when someone lays down and another person lays perpindicular to them and rolls over their entire body. Crazy sensation.
The Roller Coaster is when you interlock you arms with as many people as you want while sitting in a line. You close your eyes and pretend your on a rollercoaster moving your body as if you were, Everyone has to fall in though, just follow whoever is moving whichever way. When your going up a huge drop you all lean back, steeper and steeper and then rush forward. It really starts to feel real and it a lot of fun.

Anyone else have similiar things they do, please share and please help to answer my first question if you can.

 

we totally enjoy N02 with our x

 

St. Johns Wort - This is (thought to be) an SSRI (Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitor). SSRI's are well known for reducing or completely eliminating the effects of MDMA(Ecstacy), which is why alot of people on anti-depresants like Prozac complain of getting no effect from E.

B-12 - This is just a B vitamin. B vitamins are used by the body to release energy from the food we eat. It might have a very small effect on your roll but nothing above placebo levels.

5-Htp - This is one of the things the brain needs to produce serotonin but it takes a while to build up your levels of 5-htp, some people claim that taking 5-htp supplements for the two weeks preceding your roll will increase the effects, some say by a lot some say by a barely noticable amount.

2-cb - this is an MDMA like drug in itself. There would not be much point mixing MDMA with 2-cb as they are very similar already, but they may potentially increase the percieved effect of the other, aswell as possibly increasing the neagative effects of each other ( the combination would proibably increase the risks from taking either drug by itself).

 

Good Info!:cheers2:

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Thanks that was very helpful information but does anyone know more about the effect of melatonin?

 

With regards to melatonin, heres the short awnser: I don't have a clue.

Heres the long awnser: Possibly. Like you say melatonin is closely related to serotonin, it is used to regulate sleep. When it's dark your brain releases more melotonin and when it's bright it releases little, in nocturnal animals it's the other way around. It's also like you said, a very powerful anti-oxidant. I have heard of people using melatonin to help with withdrawl from methamphetamines, heroin ect. I have also heard of it being used to increase the effects of opiates like heroin or codeine. Another use I know some people to use it for is to take a high dose before they smoke cannabis as they say it takes away some of the fatique you feel when you are stoned. One more use is as a presurser in the synthesis of the drugs 5-meo-dmt (foxy). As far as it's use with MDMA goes, it should reduce the comedown and possibly the next day hangover (due to it's anti-oxidant properties), while also helping you to sleep properly, which will obviously make you feel better than if your sleep patterns are all messed up, like they ghet for some people afgter taking e.

Basically you should try it (I think its sold over the counter in the USA?), I can't see any reason why it would be a risk to mix it with MDMA, but it could definately have the potential to help stave off some of the negatie after effects. I simply can't say what effect, if any, it would have on the roll itself. Let us know if you do try it out Ravin, and post back. Sorry I can't help more.

 

I suppose that is what I will have to do, Ill try the b-12 and melatonin and see what happens.

 

just drink a bunch of orange juice