X and sleeping pills.

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by mixmaster1314, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. mixmaster1314

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    so i dont want to be up all night again this time, and i cant smoke any herb for the fact that i might be getting tested soon.
    so im wondering if OTC sleeping pills (diphenhydramine) will interfere with X?
     
  2. Geneity

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    They will. OTC sleeping pills won't help you fall asleep on things like E and Speed. That's what Benzo's are for.

    The only thing that's even slightly helped me sleep (on Adderall no less) was Doxylamine Succinate (found in Unisom). I'd say it helped about 10%, the rest was me wanting to go to sleep and relaxing and trying to sleep really hard, haha. This was on a come-down.

    E has Methamphetamine in it. Seeing as how Meth is the most powerful stimulant there is, I doubt OTC medications will help you any more then a placebo would. Just be glad it doesn't last 36 hours on one dose like Adderall does for me.
     
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    That's a sick ass picture in your siggy Geneity.
     
  4. mixmaster1314

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    damn. alright thanks man, guess ill have to use some herb anyways.
     
  5. Geneity

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    Thanks. Go to www.comcom.com. The guy is an amazing artist. It's all acrylic on canvas. Mind-blowing.

    MixMaster: You could try OTC sleep medications (I recommend Unisom, because Doxylamine Succinate is the strongest hypnotic without a prescription and is said to be stronger then some prescription medications). Take ONE pill. More will just give you restless leg syndrome and youll start tripping and it'll just be super shitty.
     
  6. StonerBill

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    your best option is getting some Valium. otherwise, just smoke the herb man. or dont sleep.
     
  7. goofydrummer

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    i was wondering if it was ok to take e while on benzodiazapenes. I am on them everyday since a few weeks ago, so i was wondering if thats alright.
     
  8. StonerBill

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    yeh sure
     
  9. Energy Recruitm

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    They will. OTC sleeping pills won't help you fall asleep on things like E and Speed. That's what are for. only thing that's even slightly helped me sleep (on l no less) was (found in . I'd say it helped about 10%, the rest was me wanting to go to sleep and relaxing and trying to sleep really hard, . This was on a come-down.E has Methamphetamine in it. Seeing as how Math is the most powerful stimulant there is, I doubt OTC medications will help you any more then a placebo would. Just be glad it doesn't last 36 hours on one dose like does for me.
     
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    wtf lol

    btw Gen that website is some printing business
     
  12. Euphorial

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    haha yea dude I noticed that too. I'm both angry & confused :mad: :confused:
     
  13. Geneity

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  14. Euphorial

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    That website is quite awesome. Thank you for the correct link. :D
     
  15. Geneity

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    They're both phenethylamines

    Meth is Methyl-Alpha-Methyl-Phenyl-ethyl-amine, i.e. methamphetamine....

    'E' is MDMA, Methylenedioxymethamphetamine. MDMA is just meth with a 'methylenedioxy' group attached to it. Many of the effects from MDMA are caused by serotonin and dopamine release.

    And I'm fucked on K and drunk

    ...this post took FOREVER..........
     
  16. Feelings Of U4ia

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    E doesn't have Methamphetamine in it. Unless it's adulterated.

    It might be similar with the name scenario, but Methamphetamine itself is not a present chemical in MDMA.

    Many of the effects from MDMA (ALL would be more correct) are caused by Serotonin release. Dopamine release from MDMA is not what causes the effects of MDMA.
     
  17. Eric1989

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    Yes, it does. Methylene dioxide METHAMPHETAMINE. It doesn't contain the word methamphetamine for shits and giggles.
     
  18. Feelings Of U4ia

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    What is the point of adding Meth to pills if Methamphetamine is already most of the chemical make-up of the pill? How would someone even be able to tell that Meth was added to a pill, if Methamphetamine is already in it?

    Why would test kits not register the presence of Methamphetamine from pure MDMA, but in a pressed pill with Meth added, it does?

    Why wouldn't all the negative effects of Methamphetamine use be present in MDMA users?

    The second question I asked is the one I want the answer to the most.

    It's "just" a group attached to it, but it completely changes the molecule and effects produced by it.
     
  19. Geneity

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    1) Because meth and MDMA don't have the same effects, they are not the same chemical.

    2) Because again, meth and MDMA are not the same chemical. MDMA is meth with a methyenedioxy group attached That's like thinking dimethoxyamphetamine would set off a marquis for amphetamine. MDMA has been known to set off a drug test for meth/amphetamines.

    3) MDMA has plenty of bad side effects. However it won't be broken down the same way that meth is. I hope you realize that MDMA stands for methylenedioxymethamphetamine. Like meth, it acts strongly with serotonin AND dopamine
     
  20. pedaltopedal

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    edit: oops, geneity beat me to it.

    U4ia is correct.

    Yea, but it has the methyledioxide attached to it... so guess what, that makes it an entirely different chemical with different effects.
     

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