wow so much for freedom of speech..

Discussion in 'Protest' started by hippiehillbilly, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I can't believe that some of those commenting still believe Iraq had something to do with 09/11 shows the marketing gurus have done their stuff.

    They've earned their place in history. They caused a war that never needed to happen, and perhaps they will be responsible for allowing the US government to use nukes on Iran. Amazing how a sales program can work!
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Now you can't post a poster with wheat paste unless you have a permit..when did this happen.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Where were all you woodstock lovers?
     
  5. gshdgns

    gshdgns Member

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    I am sure that if they were posting posters promoting patriots day there would be no problem. Police hypocrisy in action.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    So why were they arrested?
     
  7. gshdgns

    gshdgns Member

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    Selective enforcement.
     
  8. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    Well thats bullshit. I told yall they were trying to take our rights away.. they really are!
    But it doesn't matter that those people got arrested because a whole lot of people are going to that rally, hopefully including myself. They can go ahead and try to arrest us all.
     
  9. thegreatbuddah420

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    what is freedom? seriously if anyone knows will you tell me? , they call this a free country and we have all these so called "freedoms" but when we try to express these freedoms, things like what happened in the video we all just watched take place. I cant put a number on how many NON VIOLENT again non violent protests have ended with swat teams, tear gas, tazers, and the big one POLICE BRUTALITY and for what? a group of regular people like you and me that want to make whats wrong right? society is a fucked up thing and societies enforcers the "fraternal order of police" abuse their power and make things worse.the police are the problem people, not the protesters it dosnt becomea viloent protest 99.9 % of the time untill the police make it a violent protest. so let me end my rant by asking you again, what is freedom? fiction thats what.. good day
     
  10. zenloki

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    i'll see you there.

    the only way that anything is going to change is to get a hell of a lot more people invovled. we outnumber the rulers by a huge number and they know that if we organize they're finished. that's why they don't want the rally and march today.
     
  11. johnnybravo

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    Here's another nail in the freedom of speech coffin:


    The US Senate censured www.moveon.org for their "General Betray-us" satire on General Petraeus over the bungled Iraq war that has cost us nearly one trillion dollars. What's next? Are they going to arrest the people involved with www.moveon.org if they satire any other military person or Bush himself?

    The senate would not have done that if moveon had satired the Iranian president by calling him "I-need-a-blow-job".

    Johnny Bravo
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I agree. I was embarrassed by how badly Ahmadinejad was treated by college faculty, journalists, and politicians, people that are supposed to be educated and mature, during his presentation at Columbia and visit here. It says a lot for our sophistication and level of education, how we treat visiting dignitaries. What we have demonstrated is a juvenile or adolescent penchant for behaving like a neighborhood bully that won't play with you if you don't play by his rules. Are we so afraid of him, that we have to bluster and swagger, without addressing the valid concerns he voiced. It is his country that is being threatened, by a country that currently has nuclear weapons.
     
  13. gshdgns

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    Still waiting on the senate to denounce Rush for his "fake solders" bit.
     
  14. Hibiscusparadiseyogi

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    Freedoms? I thought we only had liberties, not freedoms....where have I been? Our liberties though, may be short-lived as they are being taken away from us.
     
  15. Wond'ringAloud

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    Freedoms, liberties whatever, they're all illusions...especially in the UK...and any Brit who thinks otherwise is seriously deluding themself. Little by little, our liberties have been eroded under the pretext of anti-terrorism and the man in the street shows only indifference.


    I cannot believe the apathy, especially in the workplace...hard won liberties blithely tossed aside, begun by Thatcher and carried on by her prodigy Blair. Hell! my forefathers must surely be turning in their graves.

    G K Chesterton got it right when he spoke of us in his poem 'The Secret People' "we did and died like lions, to keep ourselves in chains" Meh! I'm done.
     
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    asilos vulnerado Senior Member

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    I get to into this shit. I read through the patriot act and the domestic security enhancement act (patriot act II). It really brings down my days, so Ive chosen to keep out of it
     
  17. gshdgns

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    Apathy by the people leads to tyranny by the Government.
     
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    Hello everybody keep up the good work get up stand up, stand up for your rights.Carry on.
     
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    Good question. We need to understand the context.

    Were they interrupting the conference by any chance?

    If so, doesn't the speaker have a right to speak, and don't the journalists (and by extension the public) have a right to hear what they're saying? Freedom of speech doesnt mean shouting down someone else and stopping them from speaking themselves.
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I hear you, it's only been the last ten years or so that the US workforce allowed their rights to be eroded like those in Britian, they were promised security and living wage...but those things are no longer guarranteed. The only guarrantee is that big business will end up the big winner and the employee will end up enslaved.

    We allow ourselves to be screened for drugs and our credit and health histories to be inspected by who....people that need labor, why are their needs and protections more important than our individual civil rights? It's time we became the market and they became the consumer.
     

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