Wow, really scarry trip, hard to recal why.

Hey,

Last night I smoked Salvia for my 5th time. My previous attempt had been by far my most successful. I saw things, I felt things and my perception was very altered.

So, Last night I wanted to just chill before bed. No pot left, but I had some "weaker" 5x Salvia.

I smoked it, and holyshit. I can't even describe it, it was as if I were a lifeless object, at least everything/everyone else thought so. Actually, I was a word, in a different language (WTF i know). Then I was 100% sure I was going to die. It was so bad, I actually shouted outload three times. I was terrified.

I had no idea it was a salvia trip. I had pretty much instantly forgot I had smoked Salvia on this little trip, and that made it so much more scarry.

 

welcome to Salvia Land.

 

lol, I'm sure if I Knew I was smoking Salvia, I would have made it better, I'm going to avoid using it in Dark rooms from now on.

 

I've heard that from many people that they forgot they smoked Salvia once they were on a trip.

There's that Simpson's episode, where Homer goes to the chili festival. He says something like "Woke up, fought with Marge, ate Guatemalan insanity peppers, then I... Oh...."

 

Thinking back, its not scarry anymore. I was fighting it, even though they tell you never to do that. Maybe I missed an important vision because of me fighting it. Will try again soon

 

I think That it is such a foreign experience, that the first few time you go there it can be kind of overwhelming..... once you get more used to the whole process and what to expect it will be much more manageable....

 

i feel an extreme sense of deja vu when i smoke it since everytime i really trip, it seems like that moment is the most important moment of my life and as i come down, it tells me to forget what just happened.. recently i have been remembering things from it.. like my reality sort of slicing away and i become an object in another world, you could say im an insignificant object in the 'grand scheme of things'.. which is true. once i became an envelope in a mail carriers bag and i was on my way to be delivered to the next house but the trip was so short, i only made it out of the mail truck to the front door..mindfuck

 

It kind of does that to me, too. It's so hard to explain.

 

Im right there with you guys.

When I go in I feel like I was told some great secret that everyone in the world needs to be told. Wile im tripping I will try my hardest to remember what the secret is but it fades away and I come back to reality....

 

It feels like deja vu but it's just like getting drunk or high. Only difference is you actually see and feel ( other than cross-eyes and turning stomach ) completely different sensations than you feel in any other circumstance. It's familiarity, repetition. Salvia changes with the environment in my experiences.

 

I have to disagree with that, for me.

Salvia is nothing like getting drunk or high.

I get drunk, I get chatty. I get high and I get creative.

I smoke Salvia and I can tell, for me, that my ego consciousness is being pulled back into a lower level of awareness.

 

I also have to disagree. I don't know how strong your trip was but Salvia is unlike any other drug I have done the only drug I can compare it to somewhat and its still not a great comparison is very strong Angel Dust PCP. Being very fucked up on Dust in somewhat like a salvia trip ?? not knowing where you are, not knowing if things are real or fake, slowing of time, just being out of it pretty much, The only drugs that have had me totaly gone like that are Salvia and real strong Angel dust. Special K somwwhat to a very very bad k hole but even a bad K hole is nothing like Salvia or Strong Dust ?

 

I'm afraid of Salvia, my last trip was fucked up, similar to the start of this tread.

Haven't touched it since, the rest is still sitting there waiting to be smoked but it introduced me to a part of my mind I'm not really sure if I like, a very taunting and intimidating part of my mind.

 

Don't feel alone. It still creeps me out a little bit, too, even in small amounts.

I strongly believe that's part of the reason why it's still legal: to scare people away from psychedelics.

 

tripoli I agree man I can't stand the Shit. I really don't know many people who do like the trip to be honest. Dam if someone did try Salvia before any other psychedelics they probably would be scared to death to even try any thing else.I hope people don't think that all psychedelics are like Salvia because they are not even close. Shit LSD and Mushrooms are fun as all hell and can be very enjoyable. I can't even see a way that someone would enjoy a salvia trip. I just can't !!!

 

yeah i definately understand what you guys are saying completly. I have been to the other side 2 times now. I have not done it for about a month now because it seems like the more i use it the more scared i get. But the trouble with that is that i love using it soo much because it is the most fascinating experiences of my life and when im not on it i just keep thinking about it more and more it drives me crazy!! After i do it it gets me thinking very hard and then i realize it has greatly shifted my reality. I feel as though everything isnt as real as it used to be and i keep thinking about our souls and shit like the big question about where do we go when we die. Salvia made me think about this kinda stuff so much more and it completely changed my view on it This is just those two special times though where i had a high dose.

i have done it about 30 times now altogether but those other times i did it where nowhere as meaningful as these two times. after them i felt as though i had left my reality and then after it ended my soul had been placed back inside my own body as if my soul had just gone on a journey.

these experiences are the most meaningful but also the most scary for me this is why im so intimidated by this drug. i do not know if i should go all the way back for a third time or not. This keeps going through my mind because i know i will do it again very soon.

sorry that post is so long this is all the crazy shit that has been going through my mind since i had my last trip

 

That is a VERY interesting point...... I had never thought of that .... It wouldn;t supprise me a bit...

 

That's the feeling that I get, even when I do low dosages. It feels like my soul has been pushed back from "this" reality into something else, something bigger.

And what scares the shit out of me - and logically, rationally, I know this makes no sense - is the thought of being pushed out of my body and not being allowed back inside.

But even on the smaller doses, I notice that once I'm back to baseline, I really appreciate everything more. Whether it's writing checks, mowing the lawn, or watching a good movie, it all becomes more dear.

But then, I'll go without it for a few weeks, get on a drinking kick, and before I know it, life is dull and ugly and I stop giving a shit.

 

I've thought about it a lot, and that's one of the reasons I think it's legal.

Another reason is this: although Salvia turns a person on to another dimension of realilty, the broadening of awareness isn't as significant as weed, acid, or shrooms.

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, so take this with a grain of salt, but I strongly believe that the "powers that be" do not want an intelligent, aware, empathetic populace.

Because everyone would realize that they're getting fucked, and they'd figure out who's doing the fucking, and they'd probably do something about it.

(Long Live Bill Hicks)

 

tripoli you hit the nail right on the head there, I think my worst nightmare would be smoking Salvia and not coming back from the trip. and the last time I smoked it thats all I keep thinking and it scared the living shit out of me I was so happy when it came to a end. I never heard of that happening but just the thought of staying in that world gives me the creeps, WoW. just imagine you sit down one night take a few hits of Salvia from the bong and never come back your stuck in the world of sally D for the rest of your life !!!!