last night around 6:45 i drank some cherry kool-aid containing ~12.5mg 2C-E. i felt the first noticible effects around 7:30, though i felt some very mild GI disturbance around 7:15. never actually got sick, though the slightly uncomfortable body load lasted throughout most of the experience. by 8 o'clock i was DEFINITELY tripping. what can i say about this substance? for one i felt as if time were moving by very, very slowly, and the peak lasts for a long time, with a slow climb down afterwards. it was extremely visual, moreso than most other trips i've had with things like mushrooms or lsd. the visuals were mostly all open eye and consisted primarily of patterning and color, but at one point my living room looked like a picture through a fisheye lens and the objects in it made an almost kaleidoscopic shape - without moving. the experience was predominantly enjoyable, but not quite as benign as 2C-B. i definitely felt a slightly dark edge to it, and my thoughts at some points were not entirely pleasant. of course, much of this may be attributable to being nervous about trying a rather unresearched psychedelic, and a strongly stimulating one at that. the effect was almost like a miix of certain aspects of acid and certain aspects of amphetamines. very odd, and at times a little jittery. overall it was a positive experience though, and it really went beyond my expectations. i can't imagine what it's like at 20mg, its supposed to have a rather sharp dose/response curve. i didn't get to sleep until about 3 or 4 i'm sure, but i feel alright this morning.
Nice, sounds fun. Only thing that sucks is the stomach discomfort. The dose/response curve is crazy. 25 mg's is like a ten strip of acid. Crazy mandalas just like flying out of the uhhh fabric of reality straight at you all over the place, while other fractals are flying around everywhere. I've watched just full blown psychedelic animations with my eyes closed on it too. With eyes open, I watched this intertwining pattern on one of my shirts become multi-colored, start waving, and then it started flying around in the air. Then I laid down and watched the flowers on my walls become animated, die, become reborn, die again, turn into an eyeball on a chain, then melt into a liquid. Those were both the first time I took 2c-e (25 mg's). Ahhh nothing like first times.
first times are amazing...i'm about to post about a first time with DPT last night....my god..... anyway, yeah...this stuff is pretty nice, i think it has potential, but the stimulation and stomach discomfort do get to me a little. i don't think i'll ever dose above 20mg of this for myself, really.
I´ve said it several times before and I´ll say it again: the best solution for the stomach discomfort that goes with RCs is fresh ginger.
Oh, btw: The experience of 10-12mgs 2C-E is completely diffrent than the 20mg experience (and so is also the 30mg experience). For some reason, this RC changes its face extremely according to the dosage.
i know everyone is different, but do you have some general comments on the changes you in particular notice? so far i've taken 7.5 and 12.5mg doses...i plan on at least 15 or so next time
Did you notice any effects at 7.5? 15 is what I usually take if I want a decent trip. You'll probably have fun.
Well, for some strange reason, I don´t get any nausea with doses over 25mgs (and I get them always at lower doses!). With less than 15mgs I don´t get any of the colour enhancing effect, but it also vanishes above 35mgs. More than 20 mgs always enhances my 3D-perception. With less than 15mgs I get a strong relaxation, whilst more than 25mgs make me very active. I´ve measured my blood pressure on some trips and found out, that a small dose lowers the blood pressure (for me to approx. 90/60mmHg), a high dose (more than 30mgs) raises it (to approx. 160/100mmHg). With less than 10mgs I´m always very hungry, from 10 to 30mgs I don´t get hungry at all, but above 30mgs I can eat like under THC. Strange, isn´t it? Enough examples for the confusing kinetic of this fascinating material?
yeah, that is strange.... i did notice effects at 7.5, but it more or less was about as mild as half an eighth of cubensis. nothing to write home about, just made the evening slightly more enjoyable. i next plan to take 15mg, this saturday probably...
Then we may be tripping at the same time... I´m going to a firework display on Saturday evening and plan to do it with 20mgs of 2C-E (I´ve done this with several RCs before, incl. 2C-E; my wife is an excellent sitter for such situations). I´ll start at 8pm, the firework starts at 9.30pm (Central European (Summer-)Time), that´s 4.30pm Eastern Time. So maybe you´ll think of me, in case you´re tripping at the same time. If you do 2C-E at more than 15mgs during daytime and have a sitter, a walk into nature is a must. Try it, you´ve never seen so many shades of green before (at least 200-300!). If you don´t have a sitter, but a balcony, sitting there for a while can be a good replacement. Oh, one more strange thing about this RC: On 2C-E (more than 15mgs) I always get the urge to clean the house (esp. the bathroom), even if this has been done just before, because under that stuff, I start to see dirt everywhere. Now that´s what I call really weird!
i didnt notice the last aspect, but i tried 20mg a few nights ago and whew....talk about stomach upset! i puked good, and whats more i threw up microwave popcorn i'd eaten hours before...ugh....worst part was the kernels and sharp stuff that doesnt really digest much, felt like i had been split open with a knife and gutted like a fish immediately afterwards i felt like a million bucks though. one of the more intense trips i've had, but not on level with the DPT. i ended up watching the disney movie the sword in the stone...whew, that was incredible stuff! i only have 30mg left, i sold a bunch to someone to make back some of the money. i'm still going to take 15 probably saturday, and then 15 another time. good riddance for a while. but i want to save up, buy a mg scale off ebay and look into some of the other interesting substances available...think i may leave the 2C-s alone for a little while though.
i tried 20mg for the first time on sunday. it was breathtaking. My 2 previous experiences were with 16mg. @0mg blew it out of the water. Showed me parts of my psyche that were very reminiscent of what LSD had to show. cosmic. glad you enjoyed, tis another one of my favorites. I highly recomend you look into 4 ho mipt if you havent already and also higher doses of 4 ho dipt. ( i hear 4 ho det is good too but have no experience with it.)
actually, i'm thinking i'll split this stuff up into a 20mg and a 10mg dose instead of 15 and 15....i want to try 15, but i think i'd rather have another really strong 20mg trip sometime. i can always mix the 10mg with some mushrooms or something...that could prove to be very interesting.
10mgs of 2C-E are very good to combine with either 5mgs of 2C-B or 15mgs of 4HO-DiPT. I´ve tried both combos, really interesting experiences.
i've read some on 2c-e and it sounds awesome, a couple weeks ago i got my hands on some 2c-b and 2c-t-7, which were both cool, except i can't really tell how strong the 2c-b was because i also ate a quad of mushrooms with it...but to say the least there both sweet
2c-e is lovely.......i had another gram coming but a bunch of bullshit went down and it is sitting in a post office somewhere,and i cant get to it cos someone else ordered it