Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

Look balbus told me to come here and help answer people's questions about Ron Paul, but, can you guys post them on my topic please? http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=449377&page=3

Im not about to scroll thru 100 pages to find out what makes you guys think that he's about "Making the rich richer," but that simply isn't true...

 

Ok, everyone believes that Ron Paul will destroy the environment. What do you say to that?

 

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No I asked you to address the criticisms levelled at right wing libertarian ideas that begin from the very first page of this thread – you seem to be refusing to do so (seeing that all you had to do was read the thread and you are refusing to do so).

That is not surprising no other right wing libertarian has been able to address them in a rational or reasonable way either.

 

Why? Because he wants to eliminate the EPA? This was brought up in another topic in which it was mentioned that the EPA already allows businesses to dump waste providing that they pay a fine, which already isn't working. The EPA is flawed and very simply a waste of our tax money.

Ron Paul has a much better policy than the EPA;

 

This is a quote from immortal technique (an african american) "Affirmative action isn't reverse descrimination." and that's the problem, you give someone a job due to their work ethic, not due to the color of their skin. I've had a job at best buy in which my black co worker would never show up, and if he did he was high and lazy. (not because he was black, he was just a terrible employee.) Still best buy would not fire him due to this alleged "affirmative action" and the fear of being sued over it.

 

White employers didn't and wouldn't hire black people. They also wouldn't promote them. If they did hire them, it was for janitorial jobs and the like.

This is why AA was made into policy.

 

You're talking about in the 1960's, I highly doubt that will happen today. And it's ignorant to suggest the best to combat that is to force white people to give black people the job regardless of their work ethic. That's not equality. Equal means exactly that. No one is put of higher importance to another. So you're saying that's racist but what about black only clubs etc? There's no law insuring white people aren't being desriminated against in these such situations.

 

I'm talking about the 1980's, dude. My hometown was still racially divided, then, and black people were not being given most of the decent jobs.

Racism in the workplace was still a big thing in the 70's and 80's and, to be completely frank, AA was one of the things that opened it up to black folks.

 

If you'll remember....I offered to have a point by point discussion where I would try to defend any criticisms you have about Ron Paul. I gave a legitimate response to your first round of criticisms but I haven't heard anything back from you.

 

Well I live in NY, and black people get away with A LOT out here. Including all-black clubs in which white people are literally not allowed. So with all dues respect, yeah AA is a good thing, but to some degree it should go both ways, you know? That's truly not racist, that's true equality.

 

Look I realize this London dude is a "super moderator," but PLEASE lovin' for the love of God, it isn't worth it. He thinks Liberals are right wing, when they're actually far left of the political spectrum. He has no idea what's going on in American politics.

 

Well, sometimes the only way a society can arrive at justice is to tip the scales in favor of those that have had it tipped against them for so long.

 

Well you're certainly entitled to that opinion, but I tend to respectfully disagree.

 

Edit: not going to go into it any further

 

Did you just like curse me out? Because I didn't get into exactly what I believe, in an attempt to be respectful, but if they can have black clubs, we should be able to have white clubs!!! Idc if you white people think that's racist, my best friend is black (and acts just like me lol,) But I'd tell him the same thing, and he knows it. He knows exactly how I feel about all that, because that my friend, is true equality.

 

No, I didn't curse you out. Your ideas of "true equality" would result in white people hoarding their economic, social, and political power.

 

Political power isn't even shared with less fortunate white people!? And no, what I actually meant is, they shouldn't be allowed to have black only clubs because that's fucking racist.

 

People that love to rebel inevitably find something to rebel against.

 

Well, all I can say is get ready for 4 more years, and maybe after another term of Obama or one of Romney if the Nation is still standing, we may have another chance to restore our government. Ron Paul tried but things just haven't got bad enough yet.

 

Hmmm, now I'm beginning to wonder if some of your opposition to Obama is because of the color of his skin.
Yeah, yeah, I read that your best friend is black, that still doesn't negate the possibility that some of your hatred for Obama is just hatred towards blacks in general.
I mean you have posted a few statements that are quite frankly rather racist.