Would you assist a suicide?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by redyelruc, Jul 8, 2008.

  1. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    even if the person didn't have a terminal illness?
     
  2. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    No. In fact I am very angry at (J) for killing himself a couple of months back.
     
  3. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    I believe in relativity. I can't say yes or no....BUT if someone is sane and truly in pain and wants that...maybe....

    I know we put our animals to sleep and not humans... it can be cruel...


    its a blurry issue though... i know id try to HELP them LIVE first.
     
  4. shadowmya

    shadowmya Confused

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    I would never help someone kill themselves. If not anything else the fact that it is illegal.
     
  5. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    You won't help me die, sweetie? *sobs*
     
  6. shadowmya

    shadowmya Confused

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    No I would help you live and help you face your hardships and help you realize you're not alone because no one truly is.
     
  7. CherokeeMist

    CherokeeMist Senior Member

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    Nope, I wouldn't, regardless of the situation. The primary reason being it's illegal and I could be charged with murder.

    However, I fully believe that doctor assisted suicides should be legal. If someone's terminally ill and in so much pain it is actually a chore to live, they should be able to make the choice to be put out of their misery.
     
  8. Aldousage

    Aldousage Member

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    No terminal illness? Hmmm...

    Not an easy question. If he/she had a crippling disability (or multiple disabilities), was elderly, and perpetually unhappy, for example - I think I would (if not for the legal implications; I'm speaking purely of personal ethics here - not in practical terms).

    To be more specific in an example:
    Imagine a sixty-eight year old man were in a terrible car accident (for which he was unquestionably responsible), lost vision in both eyes and the use of all four limbs, and had horrible scars all over his body. Imagine further that the man's wife, his son (an only child) and his granddaughter were killed in the accident, and that the survivor spent several hours with the gore of his brutally torn family draped over him, just before losing vision due to a sudden splash of fiery gas. In addition, the man later learns that his sudden, absent-minded swerve also ended the lives of a young couple and their infant son (their toddler daughter survived, but was severely and inoperably mutilated).

    Three years after, with no family left, and nothing but pain and tears to keep him company, the now seventy-one year old, limbless blind man begs you to release him from the torturous, seeemingly endless agony and misery of existence.

    Imagine sixty-eight years of appreciating the beauty of nature, walking along a dirt path, running, dancing, laughing, and loving... all of it very suddenly put to an abrupt end. The bit of Earth's future that he helped to create (his son and granddaughter) - gone in the blink of a now useless eye... and by his own hands.

    It's easy to answer with mindless optimism such as "he could find love and happiness if he just had some faith and a little help", but as I say, actually IMAGINE yourself in the position described above. Imagine each bit, seperately, then all in combination, if you can.

    I find no shame in "giving in", so to speak. In the above example of the man and the car accident, it would definitely be my choice.

    Peacelove,
    Aldousage
     
  9. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    How is that even a legitimate question?

    It would be hard tough enough a decision to assist suicide in case of a terminal illness.

    But without?
     
  10. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Well, I'd imagine a lot of people would be in favour of helping somebody who was going to die anyway(in excruciating pain). There seems to be a general acceptance of euthanasia in extreme cases, at least from a lot of the members on here. I've seen numerous threads on the subject

    But I was wondering about suicidals escaping from mental anguish/illness or physical pain/disability.

    Would you help a friend who was determined, if they asked you? Somebody you knew would do it anyway, with or without your help
     
  11. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    It depends on the circumstances, but it’s very unlikely I would ever assist anyone (including a loved one) in euthanasia, unless their suffering was so great they literally begged me for assistance :(


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    Hotwater
     
  12. The manticore

    The manticore Member

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    no, lifes the greatest gift etunasia on the otherhand maybe in a situation
     
  13. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    probably not.. although there could possibly be extreme circumstances that might change my mind
     
  14. silverhippy

    silverhippy Comfortably Numb

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    Sure why not. It would make it better if they aren't sick. If they want to go that bad and need help and asked me I would think it was an honor. It would have to be a slow death though. I need entertainment.

    Peace
     
  15. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i'd be too paranoid of being accused and convicted of murder, under almost any but extremely unusual circumstances, which are limited pretty much to those under which there wouldn't be anyone to do so. not a situation 99% of people, even in odd and unusual places, ever encounter in their lives.

    i do believe there MIGHT be unusual circumstances under which it might be reasonable and more then reasonable to do so, but i still would be too paranoid to risk it under almost any of them.

    =^^=
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  16. Quoth the Raven

    Quoth the Raven RaveIan

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    If there wasn't any chance of being convicted for murder.. sure. Everyone has (or should have) the right to decide when they die, barring accidents.
     
  17. FullMoonGirl

    FullMoonGirl Member

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    I have tried multiple times to commit suicide, years ago. And I can say, you need people to support your to help you LIVE.

    I know everyone knows this quote, but it's so true.
    It is always the darkest before the dawn.
    Everyone's life has it's ups and downs, and killing yourself is definitly NOT the answer...

    unless your a rapist or child abuser, then go for it, the world is better off without them. If I wouldn't get caught, damn straight I would help a sicko like that do themself in!!
     
  18. prissbaby

    prissbaby creepy

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    I imagine anyone who felt trapped and actually wanted to die, would find a way to do it and keep it on the d/l. asking someone to assist you just seems like a cry for help in my opinion.

    but to answer the question, no I wouldn't assist anyone in killing themselves.
     
  19. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    The only situation I can imagine assisting in a hastened death for someone, would be if they were sprawled out on the ground bleeding to death and begging to die. Id put a cap in them to save them the struggle of clinging onto life that is fleeting rapidly. Other than that no way, Id help in any way I could to try and prevent a suicide, terminal illness or no terminal illness.
    Aum Tat Sat -
     
  20. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    I had a suicide pact with a girl when I was about 17. We both promised that if we were ever gonna do it, we would call the other to say goodbye. She did, twice, before she actually succeeded.
     
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