Would This Fix Illegal Immigration?

Discussion in 'Latest News' started by Motion, Mar 21, 2021.

  1. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

    Why haven't more politicians proposed this?


     
  2. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

    What do you see as a solution? Does it coincide with the agenda of one or the other party?

    Illegal immigration has a rhetorical connotation that immigrants are "bad". Here we see men on the southern border of the United States lined up by a border patrol vehicle with a cop writing what doesn't look like citations. Is he taking notes for the trial?



    I think that people should come to this country - bottom line. Currently there is no official system in place to state how many or from where - if there is, it's very outdated.

    We need a policy that says people are allowed to come here, and all who don't care for it can petition Congress for change.
     
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  3. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

    I tend to be a free market person. Others with this view believe we need to expand the legal ways that people can enter the U.S. That's what that guy in the video was advocating for with more flexible work visas.
     
  4. Piobaire

    Piobaire Members

    Here's an idea; what if we were to stop the CIA from overthrowing their democratically elected governments, propping up murderously Fascist martinets, training their Fascist death squads at the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, supporting their economic systems of feudal peonage on behalf of American corporations like Del Monte (which hires U.S. trained death squads to murder union organizers and agrarian reformers), and carpet-bombing their agrarian societies with five billion dollars worth of dirt-cheap Federally-subsidized U.S. corn and wheat every year?

    But then...where would be the profit in that?

    Fleeing a hell the US helped create: why Central Americans journey north

    The root cause of migration to the United States, Mr. President, is us

    Central American Immigration
     
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  5. wilsjane

    wilsjane Members

    Looking at all that, I am certainly pleased that we are in the UK.

    American people who I meet are always fine, so why has the country declined into such a shambolic mess.?
    It certainly does not seem to be caused by the everyday citizens, but I read about a few who seem to thrive on conflict.
     
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  6. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

    Nicaragua hasn't exactly been a utopia under Sandinista rule.

    "In November, pro-government supporters in Managua attacked a group of protesters demonstrating against corruption and curbs on freedom of expression. FSLN supporters threw stones at them..."

    Nicaragua
     
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  7. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

    How effective has U.S foreign aid been in Central America?
     
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  8. Maybe we could help a few local economies and give people some hope for the future by setting them up some factories and having some of our stuff manufactured there? Pull it from China and move it to various Latin American countries. Seems kinda weird that I haven't heard any of the major players talking about the possibility.
     
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    Biden'sVagina Members

  10. Piobaire

    Piobaire Members

    Why should that surprise you?
    The Sandanistas overthrew Anastasio Somoza, the son of a kleptocratic Dictator-for-life martinet who was literally installed by the United States Marine Corps, which attacked and occupied the country on behalf of American corporations like Brown Brothers, United Fruit, and the Standard Fruit Company (hence the term; "banana republic"). By the time Somoza was evacuated by the US military to Florida (along with the Nicaraguan treasury) after bombing his own capitol, he'd amassed a fortune equal to half the country's debt and 1/3 it's GDP, and owned 23% of the country.
    In retaliation for their popular revolution, the United States embargoed Nicaragua and imposed crushing economic sanctions, which have impoverished Nicaragua to this day. At no point has Nicaragua ever represented a threat to the United States...other than corporate profits.
     
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  11. granite45

    granite45 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Honest economic history indicates that economic underdevelopment is not an accident....it is the direct result of policies by the industrialized world. Corporations love do pass off the costs of their profits onto civilians and enforce the status quo with the CIA company. Been true in the US with the pandemic as the rich have gotten even richer.
     
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  12. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Supporters Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter



    Oh how quickly fades the memory. Less than six months ago Priti Patel was urging sending in gunboats to deter refugees and asylum seekers from reaching the uk across the Channel !!!
     
  13. "Que Samoza no pise jamás Nicaragua"
    (canción)
     
  14. Rag on the rich. Such a plebian thing to do.

    Rich mindset. You could take away a rich man's wealth and turn him loose, he'll get rich again. Turn his wealth over to a poor man and that man will be poor again.





    “We have so many people who can’t see a fat man standing beside a thin one without coming to the conclusion that the fat man got that way by taking advantage of the thin one!”
    — Ronald Reagan
     
  15. granite45

    granite45 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Contrary to what some would believe, Reagan was not a version of Mother Theresa. Reagan and his cronies put in place policies that started the decades long path to income redistribution from the many to the few (already rich). Just look at the income statistics for the US post 1980.
     
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  16. Piobaire

    Piobaire Members

    Non sequitur
    non se·qui·tur
    /ˌnän ˈsekwədər/
    a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement.

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  17. Great example! ^^^^^
     
  18. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

    Free market as in more people? Or less people? I'm adamantly for more people.
     
  19. Flagme15

    Flagme15 Members

    such a prescient being.
     
  20. Flagme15

    Flagme15 Members

    As long as white people refuse to work in the fields, the " problem" will continue.
     

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