Would a ban on all public religious representations and displays ease religious hatreds and violence

Would a ban on all public religious representations and displays ease religious hatreds and violence?

We have to end inquisitions and jihads of all kinds, including the less lethal ones like homophobia and misogyny.

Some secular governments, led by the French of France and Quebec, are implementing bans on all religious iconography prayers and emblems and religious displays so as to ease religious tensions and violence. They call it laïcité, which translates to secularism. Laïcité - Wikipedia

The general secular population seems to dislike the one-upmanship that the religious practice on other religions, as well as those who do not follow a religion; even though statistics show that the less religion in a nation, the more peaceful and law abiding it is. Conversely, if we look at the Christian nation of the U.S., as an example; we see perhaps the least peaceful and law abiding nation on earth. This last aside, an example of this one-upmanship, would be Christian signage that tells us to turn to Jesus or be condemned and Muslim head gear and face covering that say that the wearer is more chastely than those who do not cover their heads and bodies.

Jesus said that we should pray in private so as not to be seen as trying to outdo each other in chastity, righteousness and other one-upmanship adjectives that you might think of. Yet most who say they respect Jesus do not follow his teachings of remaining private and insist on public displays of their perceived insult to others not of their brand.

I see the secular world as following Jesus’ advice on this while the so called religious ignore Jesus.

Thoughts?

Regards
DL

 

Did you see the news about the Extinction Rebellion in London? Many Christians involved, and many Christians got arrested for civil disobedience.

I'm glad to see such people are free to express themselves and be inspired by their spiritual path to take direct action.

 

How can the secretly religious and saintly not be exposed by the goodness of their power ? Have they
protection ? If so , it's a conspiracy of community .

 

If we are going to trample the rights of law abiding citizens anyway then why not ban religious belief itself?

 

That'd be good for some violence!

 

How's that working for them? We have fewer problems with minority religions here by avoiding "one size fits all".

 

I totally agree with Greatestlam. Keep your religion to yourself. If I go into an office, of any kind, to do business and there are any religious symbols or music playing, I find another business. Before I was married, there were some girls I really liked but when I saw a cross around their necks, I just walked away.

And when the church folks begin getting out of their cars in my driveway with their bibles in hand, I simply tell them that I'm a devout atheist. It works really well

 

History shows that banning any religious group backfires in a big way.
Forcing a religion underground plays right into the hands of the extremists who have already hijacked the religion for personal gain.

 

it would probably just make martyrs out of everybody. i was told, and i don't know it is true, but in the early days of the soviet union they tried something like that.

the problem with god, or gods or a god, isn't with it/them/whatever else might be instead, which no one knows anything about anyway.
its with people telling each other what to pretend.

restrictions against religious displays being critical or condemning against other beliefs would seem reasonable.
would seem so obvious people shouldn't have to be told.

when people use their belief, any belief, as an excuse for hate, even if they think it is what is in their belief that tells them to do so,
well if a god is good, by any reasonable definition of good, you know, this would be a self contradiction.

and that is what i see as the line between what to tolerate and what not to.
you don't have to ban brand name flavors of beliefs,
to draw that line at what is mutually considerate of what is 'other' and what isn't.

we all have our own internal perceptions, even those who do who choose and claim to identify with a particular name of belief.
this is the thing, and none of us knows anyone else's internal perceptions,
just as the claims of beliefs are based on what? on people, just other people, sometime past, claiming them.

maybe they were channeling a/the god, maybe they weren't. we don't know that either.
but to me, it is highly suspicious to claim to be good and to want to be feared at the same time.

that's a combination i just don't buy.

but if someone else wants to, as long as they're not using it as an excuse to hate or harass anyone who doesn't pretend the same as them selves,
that's fine, they can be just left to themselves, and the rest of us can get along just fine, just as they can within and among their coreligionists.

 

Sounds like discrimination.

 

Now if they could just focus on ending their homophobic and misogynous teachings, scrap them, and give equality to their women and gays, it would show real progress.

I do give them credit, as you do, for their progress in that one area.

Regards
DL

 

Why not?

Do you not like the reform to Islam that France forced?

They now have the only female imam run mosque in the world that embraces unveiled women and gays.

Do you not want that everywhere?

Regards
DL

 

As Jesus said, he would know them by their works and deeds.

They are protected by governments who pick the pockets of the non-believers who have to end by supporting the belivers by making up the tax shortfall that religious tax exemptions create.

It is not a conspiracy, exactly.

It is just the Noble Law that has yet to be repealed that says that vile and immoral religions should be respected.

Regards
DL

 

That is coming but one step at a time as attrition is slowly killing religious belief as new generations are not as gullible and insecure as former generations. The more intelligent we become, the less we can be conned by religious liars.

How do you see religious people who preach homophobia and misogyny, which denies half of the population of their rightful equality, as law abiding?

Regards
DL

 

Excellently from what I can see.

Let me repeat.

Do you not like the reform to Islam that France forced?

They now have the only female imam run mosque in the world that embraces unveiled women and gays.

Do you not want that everywhere?

Regards
DL

 

You have almost the right attitude. I say almost because of your last.

I usually take the opportunity to shame them for their beliefs by showing them the ridiculousness of their harmful beliefs.

If I am to try to live by the Golden Rule and show that I care for society, I have to remember that for evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

Regards
DL

 

Where have you seen religions banned and backfire?

I have seen it replaced by statism of the Stalin and Hitler type, but those were tyrannies and not democratic or secularist states.

Regards
DL

 

I like that we are close in thinking.

I spoke of Stalin above. Please have a look.

To your quoted part, let me say that they do hate and harass by preaching their vile homophobic and misogynous beliefs that have slowed our better equality ideology.

I spoke on this above as well and in my sneaky way am hoping you will read my other responses.

Thanks for your well thought reply.

Regards
DL

 

Thanks for your response , old friend . Here's another way I could've first replied :

Jesus was the last sacrifice .
Sheep and goats have been
much relieved . Snakes like
me , too .