U.S. black metal band Wormreich and Atlanta-based melodic black/gothic metallers Khaotika were involved in a van accident that resulted in three reported fatalities. The van veered off Interstate 85 in Jackson County, Georgia, while the bands were en route to Atlanta from Spartanburg, South Carolina, after the driver fell asleep according to reports. Three people were ejected from the vehicle and later died. The identities of the deceased have not been released at this time. Terrible news. Eight other people were taken to Athens Regional Hospital and Northeast Georgia Medical Center, three in critical condition. Black metal band Kult Ov Azazel, also on the tour, released the following statement on their Facebook page: "Unfortunately tonight's show in Atlanta, GA will be canceled. The van carrying Wormreich and Khaotika was in a horrible accident this morning. We cannot go into details due to respect to the families of the involved and we are sure details will soon be available through the other parties when the time is right. Our thoughts are with those involved and their families." http://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=26167 I have more info on the fatalities and critically injured if anyone knows these guys.
They aren't even showing that photo around here. The man that I know (53 years old) has a fractured spine, some broken ribs, head trauma and other issues. He is in surgery now. His wife (49 years old) was with him. She is in another hospital with a bralken ankle, broken clavicle, and broken nose. They will operate on her ankle tomorrow.
The tree sheared off the side of the van. A friend told me that those vans have right side seat belts attached to the side of the van so when the side was torn off, it pulled everyone wearing seat belts, on that side, out of the van.
Seat belts aren't wrapped around you though. The belt is anchored on three points (for the kind with a shoulder strap), one point at the buckle, one on the side of the van (or seat) for the waist, and one for the shoulder strap on the side of the van. Ripping off the side might have torn the belts off, and then they got ejected, but it shouldn't have pulled them out. Did this friend actually witness this, or is he/she deducing that they must have been pulled out?
It sounds like the sort of thing that someone who is against wearing seat belts might say. I'd be more likely to believe this if a mechanical engineer said it, or better yet someone who does professional auto-safety crash tests. Sorry to hear about this too. At first I thought it was just a news story, but this is personal because you know a couple of the crash victims.
Pretty sure that the outside seat belt anchor points on that van are attached to the side posts, top and bottom... Only attachment to the floor is the inboard buckle piece. These 15 passenger vans are death traps.
It's bad design for the seat belts, but I still don't think it would pull you out. The belt would simply fail to protect you in this type of accident.
It looks like at least one seat belt had been fastened and got ripped out in the crash. This does not mean that a person got pulled out by the belt.
Yes, it's a bad situation no matter how they died. If someone thinks that wearing a seat belt increases their chance of dying in an accident though, they might not wear them.
I was never implying that... Seatbelts are so ingrained in my brain I have put them on to back out of a garage. The belts in those vans, on the other hand, are not very well designed as is evident in that photo in post two. Middle seat, broken belt, lap and shoulder belt are outside the van... I could see it easily being able to haul that person outside of the vehicle on impact. This and handling problems have plagued Ford as long as they have been making those 15 passenger vans. Many many fatal accidents with that particular design. $$$$$ They don't care $$$$$ Again, Aerianne... Sorry for disrupting this thread.
I could be wrong, but to me it looks like it also got seriously ripped up to get into it - the side wouldn't come off like that and leave the roof like that, does not look consistent with how cars crumple and tear. Actually ripping off the side would re-arrange a lot more near that side. It looks, to me, like that would have been survivable if everyone wore their belts, although at those speeds staying in the vehicle certainly doesn't assure survival. Of course it's no joking matter and it's shit that people died, no matter what they wore or didn't - but for fucks sake (and regardless of this incident), wear your seatbelts. Wear them around town, wear them idling down the block, wear them on the freeway, especially. It doesn't hurt you at all, it doesn't take any extra time, and we're decades past it making you a cool rebel. Traffic fatalities are waaaaay down with modern restraint systems and crash testing, but you've got to let it restrain you.... It forces you to sit certain ways and such, but it's better than sitting with worms. And if you're driving, don't let people make that choice, you're the captain, keep your ship safe, them not buckling up puts extra responsibility on your shoulders, they can endanger themselves in their own car, don't let them force you to endanger them.
I have sympathy for the people in this terrible accident,but isn't that what black metal is about.Sorry to be asinine.