World in Tangles

Discussion in 'The Future' started by Burn, Aug 27, 2004.

  1. Burn

    Burn Member

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    What do you guys think of the world today? Politically, nationally, environmentally? And... where do you think it's going to lead us?
     
  2. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    The world is going into a state of hell for everyone. As life goes on in the world it's becoming harder to live decent. Jobs for people to earn a decent living will be scares as the population grows with not many bringing about new jobs to fit the demand of that population.

    That's just my 2 cents.
     
  3. novarys

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    i think the world today has it's good and bad qualities. Such as we have come a long way in technology but how far will technology take us? Do really want to go that far? Our morals seem to have gone down alot since the "old days". Yes it's great that there is alot more openminded ideas and people out there but it's almost too bothersome at times. I think there is definately alot more convienances in the world today. Anytime someoen hates the way that freckle looks on there face they can instantly have it removed, yes it cost money but obviously the inconvieanced don't care. It's great that we are able to help the needy and unfortunate. I know that back in the day we weren't able to help as much but then again back in the day the population wasn't as it is today and there weren't so many diseases to cure either. Back then there was limited source of medicines now you can turn the tv on or look at any magazine and see an ad for any kind of pill to cure a hangnail problem......but it would be nice if all of society was acknowledged on the natural resources of the earth to cure most our aches and pains....so my thought is still that the world has it's bad and good qualities.....i could go on but i'll wait til' later
     
  4. PsychadelicTreeHugge

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    "Why should i tidy my room when the World's in such a mess?"

    Aha! And its true. Its falling apart. Has it always bin like this? At every generation, or are we just the unlucky ones?? Look around you, poverty, injustice, inequality, war, religeous fanatics, power hungry ppl, nationalism. Ppl have forgotten what lifes all about. Values, morals, ethics. Its all about money money money, that little piece of paper important enough to kill millions. Ppl worr about plastic surgery and buying second cars, secong houses, all this trivial crap while there are millions of ppl in the world dying, starving. There are as many underfed ppl in the world as over fed (soz duno how to say that in english). Do u have any idea what that means??? Thats disgusting, sickening.
    Enviromentally speaking, we're killing this planet, murderign it, sucking the life out of it. He, in a few years there will be no more petrol. We dont even need it, what about solar powered cars, there r so many other alternatives! But nooooooooooo, we dnt want the petrol companies to go bankrupt, i mean, the economy is more important than the Earth!! What about the water? There will be none in a few decades, with the increase of the world's population, and how everyone keeps waisting it. It seems like no one gives a shite bout ne of this. Do u here politicians mention thse concerns in their speeches?? The war on terror? Wat about the war on pollution? The war on terror, isnt that like some kind of an oxymoron or something?? It just makes no sense, war is terror, how can you fight terror with terror? Or, wait a minute, the Terror those litle Iraqi or Afghan children feel while being bombarded isnt as important as the terror felt by the americans?? Its all degrading, all fuckign up, why is noone looking at the long term situation???? Why cant politicians be ppl like u and me? The little ppl, the gd ppl. Its all sickening. We have to get our priorities straight. What bout getting rid of all the nuclear weapons? Why shud Iraq get rid of them when the US has hundreds of them? A bit hypocritical no? (telling someone ur not aloud to have an ice cream while ur suckign one urself). Why have the US got mre right to have WofMD? And neway, this doesnt make sense, as Iraq didnt even have any. The US shud show the example and get rid of them first. Why do weapons and bombs exist?? To murder eachother, do ppl think about wat that means?? Murdering a fellow human being, or even living being, for watever reason is just sick. They all are. Cant they just love eachother? Forget those invisible lines that make up countries. We are citizens of Earth, not just a country.


    This is long, im sorry. Hehe, i hope someone reads it.
     
  5. themnax

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    there is no should or should not about it
    there is only that everything we do in one instant
    contributes to creating what we will experience the next

    the reason to 'tidy' things is the usefulness of being able
    to find what you need when you need it

    the reason to maintain the nonfouledness of your personal
    survival nest is to not create an environment that welcomes
    insect and bacteriological colonizations that are easier
    to prevent then eliminate once established.

    how important each of those things are to each of us as
    individuals is a matter of personal taste

    but the bit about what we do participating in the creation
    of what we consecuatively experience depends on nothing but
    how the universe we happen to live in appears to work

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  6. Burn

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    I view earth as an organism. One organism. It has a particular balance that works itself out, and evolves and changes through its life. Humanity, being an inhabitant of Earth, is naturally a part of a whole.

    We seem to fail to realize our place here. We aren't the leaders of the organism. We try to be, but we aren't. Our potential is much like the White Blood Cells of our bodies... We can protect, defend, help the body grow. We can heal. We are also like an ailment of the body, cancer. Potential can go both ways. Some of us choose the bad way, others choose good. There is a mix of both kinds on Earth, but I must say, unfortunately, that the negative kind is dominating.

    How long will Earth tolerate it? Who knows. Someone I had met had told me that Earth was already half dead, and that it was in a state of desperation, confusion, chaos. That soon it will be struggling violently to live on. I hope we are not in this state as of yet. I really do.

    Though the current times seem to whisper otherwise, we'll all see soon enough.
     
  7. Butch

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    The entire belief system a person holds determines everything about their life on this planet. I am talking more about more than just religious/spiritual beliefs, I am talking about entire life beliefs.

    Most ppl (everyone except a few enlightened philosophers) believe in a world.
    We all live in the same physical world but the mental worlds we live in are as unique as the indivual and are untold times more important to the world as a whole.

    What happens in the physical world is as predictable as physics, there is no guess work about what will happen in the physical world. It is in the mental world where the potential for greatness and despair lie.

    If every person lived in the same mental world the entire planet would be in peace. How could it not? Everyone would achieve happiness, sadness, purpose and every other feeling/emotion through the same way and therefore no-one would every do something that conflicts with someone else mental world.

    The reason there is not (and possibly never will be) world peace is that every individual lives in their own unique mental world. Your mental world is created through your upbringing and experiences during your life. Your mental world will generally be influenced by family, friends and culture/nation.

    You recieve eveything from the mental world you live in. All the feelings and emotions you experience depend directly on your mental world.

    THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE!!!
    EVERYTHING IS EASY TO EXPLAIN ONCE YOU REALISE THAT EVERY PROBLEM IN THIS WORLD IS CAUSE THROUGH DIFFERING MENTAL WORLDS.

    In Hitler's mental world the purity of the German race was extremely important so he went to great lengths to align his mental and physical world.

    In George Dubya Bush's mental world the right of Americans to live without the constant threat of terror and the righteousness of exacting revenge exists, so it is no surprise that he sees no problem with starting a war in order to align his menatal and physical worlds.

    In Ossama Bin Laden's mental world the right of his beloved muslim ppl to live without the influence of American/Western culture is strong so he will go to great lengths to make the physical world so.

    Do you see what I am getting at?

    Hippies live in a mental world where they think ppl should respect the environment and be peaceful and this is why they get mad when we see that the world is not so.

    Capitalists live in a world where happiness is gained through money and the consumption of material goods, if that is their beliefs system it is obvious that this will be the way they will live.

    SO HOW DOES ALL THIS RAMMBLE SOLVE ANYTHING?

    Well all I know is that the world must be saved on the level of the individual.
    I know there are 6 billion of us but it is the only way.

    Everyone must align there mental worlds into harmony with one another - IMPOSSIBLE YOU SAY - and I sadly am inclined to think that also.

    Why? Because the world doesn't want to be saved, that is, individuals do not want to change the mental worlds they live in. Are you willing to change the mental world you live in? I bet your not! Of course your not because you believe in the mental world you live in.

    I personally have changed the mental world I live in. It is a difficult but rewarding process that takes months of thinking, personal philosophy (not reading others philosophy), and writing.

    I used to be a neo-Nazi where my race was the most important thing in the world to me. Ppl told me to change but why would I change, I believed in my mental world. The only person that can change you is yourself.

    Now I live in a mental world that is so ridiculously open and accepting of other ppl's mental worlds that sometimes I cannot really function as a "normal" human being. Nothing really makes me angry any more because I don't really believe in a strict mental world that something can conflict with.

    Do I think the world would be better off if everyone lived in the same mental world?

    This depends entirely on what mental world.

    People would definetly be better off but the planet would only be better off if the universal mental world respected the environment.

    Peace out yo, Save yourself, that is all you need to do.
     
  8. Burn

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    When people need to work together to do a certain job, they have to forget their differences and find some common ground which can let them be harmonious and constructive. Otherwise it's a mess and little or nothing is accomplished right.

    What is your common ground?
     
  9. chickenchoker

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    Hmm... Hell in a handbasket.
     

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