Word Of Advice To Activists.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Feb 4, 2025 at 8:35 AM.

  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    You know, if you want to get anything done politically these days, a more realistic approach would be...

    Be Like Mahatma Gandhi In Principle, But Like Jeremy Bentham In Actual Practice.
     
  2. Toker

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    Like anyone knows who Jeremy Bentham is. Oh wait, there's probably a few seniors here who were around when Jeremy was in his prime!

    Maybe be more like Christ and go after the money changers and elite.
     
  3. newo

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    I looked up Jeremy Bentham and it seems that mainly he advocated the pursuit of happiness. How does that apply to activism?
     
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    Activism and even democracy itself is slowly but surely being overrun and pushed to the sidelines by new age facism in the form of protectionism and growingly overt nationalism and cultural divisions. Welcome to the New World Disorder owned and operated by Corporations - divide -and conquer and consume - its all a long running psy op that has come to fruition. We are the enemy at the gates - the foe of corporate greed and lust for control of the whole fucking universe they allow some of us to inhabit. We are their plague and we must be controlled or removed. Fear your brethren and sisters if they dont bow to the oppressors . We are in a matrix in case anyone didnt notice.
     
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    Google AI Overview

    Jeremy Bentham significantly influenced English law by advocating for legal reforms based on his "utilitarian" philosophy, which aimed to create the "greatest good for the greatest number," leading to changes like advocating for prison reform, abolishing harsh punishments, and pushing for laws that maximized societal happiness by considering the potential pain and pleasure associated with legislation; he actively criticized existing legal systems and pushed for codified laws based on reason and utility, rather than historical precedent.

    Key points about Bentham's impact on English law:

    Principle of Utility:
    Bentham's core concept was the "principle of utility," which argues that laws should be designed to maximize happiness and minimize suffering for the greatest number of people.

    Prison Reform:
    He strongly criticized the inhumane conditions of prisons and proposed the "Panopticon" design, a prison with constant surveillance to encourage better behavior.

    Punishment Reform:
    Bentham argued for proportional punishments, meaning the severity of punishment should be related to the severity of the crime, and advocated against cruel and unnecessary punishments like corporal punishment.

    Legal Codification:
    He believed in replacing the complex common law system with clear, codified laws based on utilitarian principles.

    Social Reform:
    Bentham's ideas extended beyond criminal law, advocating for reforms related to education, poverty relief, and women's rights.

    ...Jeremy Bentham significantly influenced English law by advocating for major legal reforms based on his "utilitarian" philosophy, primarily pushing for the codification of common law into a clear set of statutes, criticizing existing legal complexities, and promoting a system of punishment focused on maximizing happiness for the greatest number of people, including prison reforms to make them more humane; however, during his lifetime, most of his radical proposals for legal change were not fully implemented in England, though his ideas laid the foundation for later legal reforms...


    I said what I said above because I read in a quote once that Bentham had the best approach to legal reform. He used his hedonistic calculus to see if a law really benefited the largest number. Not just the people who were most beloved, or who supposedly deserved help. I'll try to find the quote, but I don't remember who said it or where I saw it. (I just remember it had the word "ameliorative" in it, and I think a man from the UK once said it. But I can't find anything on Google now.)
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2025 at 8:21 PM

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