Will women and men ever be equal?

Or we trying to make something equal, that isn't equal?

Equal rights, equal treatment under the law, equal status, and equal pay for equal work.

 

well, before we can answer this...don't we have to identify how we are unequal? So, how are we unequal under the law?

 

If there truly was equality in the workplace we could do away with alimony. Would take the power struggle down a notch.
I'd have to go with no for now. Doesn't mean we have to stop working at it.

 

No necessarily. One of the things that make defining equality between the sexes difficult is the differences between us and the different rolls we may fill. Total work place equality will still be no help to the womyn that has been a stay at home mother for most of her adult life. She still wouldn't have the years of work experience and skills as her estranged husband, thus having way way less earning potential.

 

Point.
I was thinking about the way my ex walked onto a jobsite for construction and was hired immediately with no skills.
Couldn't that situation fall under the catagory of child support though?

 

I think child support in America could use an overhaul as well. There are actually some great Dads out there. Sometimes our system leaves them out in the cold.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't know where to begin.

 

There not much (iof any) true equality anywhere in the world.

*shrug*

 

You know what the problem here really is? you are not equal to me in my thinking, neither am I equal to you. We are biased about almost everything.
You don't think so? - then give me your brand new car, I need to go to chicago... will you give it to me? ha.

When the people come to a realization that they need to pull themselves out of the context of "mine" and "me" , they will not be biased anymore and that would mean that I would have to see you as me and you have to see me as you.
Is that change going to happen in your lifetime or mine? no , will it happen 10000 years from now, no, because it is not possible, you are only human.

 

Once Capitalism is abolished

 

Are you people talking about equality or sameness? I will have my own special set of skills, biases, etc. that nobody else shares an exact copy of, but that doesn't mean I'm not EQUAL. It's a matter of value, not exact replication! Men and women will never be the same if for no other reason than the matter of who gets pregnant. But, if we learn to value that role (instead of using that "loss of productivity" as an excuse to give men a higher salary or more prestigious position), as well as to encourage men to participate more in child care, we can come closer to equality.

I think there is a flaw in the question, however. Fundamentally, it's not just whether men and women will be equal, because as long as there is inequality in the world, poor women are likely to bear the brunt of it. I say this because women tend to be the ones left to provide care for the children when a relationship ends; that means a huge outlay in expenses, worse still in those cases where the father cannot be found or identified so that she cannot collect child support. I could probably make further arguments to support this, but I haven't had my caffeine yet this morning!

 

Well, we could strive for more equal treatment while working with the obvious differences.

 

will men ever give birth to babies? Will Mr. Mom ever be such a normal thing that society forgets to make a big deal out of it?

NOPE...guess we ain't equal then

 

Equality under the law is what's truly important...


i doubt things will ever be equal socially, or economically....

 

This may be a slightly different perspective, but I think as long as young people take Paris Hilton as the all-in-all, one of the "it" girls to copy, or even the Olsen Twins (who I actually think are sweet girls but they are still part of that scene), etc etc etc it seems that a lot of the work we did 30 years ago to create equality goes out the window by those who didn't have to work for it. Pink has a new video DVD out, "Stupid Girl." Its controversial but I find myself agreeing with it. Not a fan of Pink either, but she's making a good point.

 

Wasn't talking about opinions on Pink, was talking about her song, "Stupid Girl." I agere with the words to that song.

 

Inquiring-Mind why are you so obsessed with these kinds of questions?

You have a pattern of "will women ever be equal to men" or some other controversial questions on other forums, you may follow up on them once but then never again, ugh. I think you're trying to rub something in, and something that's not there to rub in btw.

Believe it or not but it's not that bad being a girl. Sex is good, I may not climax as frequently as my partners but but I do cum more often than not AND I climax more intensely than they, even they say so. I also get treated to dinners etc, now that's not too bad is it. My periods do not give me much hassel, it's infrequently that I do get cramps.

In my carreer I have been treated equal to men and have been paid equally. Currently women get better treatment when it comes to child custody.

We can wear pink, or listen to pink for that matter .

I know every women are different but I also know I'm not atypical.

So what's your problem troll.

 

There's no such thing as complete equality. Whethe its gender, race, siblings, whatever. There's always favoritism.

 

Post of the year. Everyone IS equal, not to be confused with "the same" or being treated equal

 

equal but in different ways. i think both sexes developing a mutual respect for those differences and not abusing a group because they are physically weaker are keys to gender morality as we will never have gender equuality because we are not equal.

 

I've yet to ever be treated differently or unequally for being a girl. In my chosen profession, women make the same as men and have the same chance of promotion. I've seen no bias whatsoever.

I hope to god we never are totally equal. I'd hate to have to take the trash out and be responsible for chopping wood, killing spiders, and mowing the lawn. I'd just as soon a man did that, thank you. I'll stay inside the house in the A/C and vaccum