Will Trump Supporters Listen To The Warnings?

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  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    How does that ‘curb’ the ‘Muslim problem’?

    I mean first you’d need to explain what the ‘Muslim problem’ is then what this does to ‘curb’ it.


    Like what?

    And again how does that ‘curb’ the ‘Muslim problem’?


    Again what are you talking about - can you actually explain your thinking - and again how does that ‘curb’ the ‘Muslim problem’?
     
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  2. Scratched

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    So anyone here (proud Democrats, I'm calling you out here) who doesn't understand why we don't like you bringing these "immigrant killing machines" whom you are so willing to let overrun western civilization, give free things to, all funded by our American paychecks so their hardcore brethren can kill/rape/mutilate our spouses/children later. What the fuck are you really thinking? You're not. Perhaps we should all move to an MJ-legal state so we can stay baked and let the rest of us deal with the problem (in your case, give them more money and freedom). This my friends, is the Democratic way. Rob from the working class, give to the immigrants that want to kill us.

    Makes perfect sense, right? READ THIS...and tell me they are a LOVING religion.
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  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So let's look at those ugly things called facts:

    First, the number of people killed in terrorist attacks in the U.S. in the last 40 years by immigrants from the countries banned by Trump........0.

    Second, number of people convicted of attempting a terrorist attack in the last 40 years by immigrants from the countries banned by Trump........17.
    Third, number of people killed a year on average by any Muslim for any reason since 9/11 (2001)........9.
    Fourth, number of people killed a year on average by all persons with guns........12,843 (not including suicides).
    Fifth, number of people killed a year on average in traffic accidents........37,000.
    Sixth, the number of people killed in terrorist attacks in the U.S. in the last 40 years by non immigrants........3,389 (including the attackers).

    Odds of dying in a traffic accident ......1 in 114.
    Odds of dying in a firearm assault ......1 in 370.
    Odds of dying by being hit by a car ......1 in 647.
    Odds of dying by drowning......1 in 1,118.
    Odds of dying by hornets, bees, or wasps......1 in 63,225.
    Odds of dying by a lightning strike ......1 in 161,856.
    Odds of dying in a terrorist attack by an immigrant ......1 in 3.6 billion.

    What the fuck are you really thinking? You're not.
     
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  4. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    [SIZE=12pt]Puff[/SIZE]

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    [SIZE=12pt]You love films but have never seen Aliens? What films do you like? [/SIZE]

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    [SIZE=12pt]Your links don’t make any sense – I mean what are you trying to say? [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=12pt]So terrorist want to spread terror is that surprising to you? [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=12pt]And what the fuck do you mean by ‘sitting ducks’?[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=12pt]What are your solutions? [/SIZE]
     
  5. Balbus

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    [SIZE=11pt]scrat[/SIZE]

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    [SIZE=11pt]Well if you had read the fucking thread you’d know I’m an atheist – but ho hum again this is so simplistic as to be mindless this isn’t about wanting to understand the issues its about wanting to cause division in the hope of generating hate.[/SIZE]

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    [SIZE=11pt]It’s what has been said of hate mongers through history – it was said about the Chinese during the ‘yellow peril’ it’s what the KKK said about the blacks and so on and so on and of course hate the lefties, those bleeding heart do gooders who want to take money away from hard working decent folk to give to the murderous scum[/SIZE]

    Do people still fall for this crap – well only when they have first lost the ability to think rationally.
     
  6. Scratched

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    lmao...my first question is, your sig says you live in Malaysia.

    So, why are you so steeped into American Politics? What is your interest in America? Why do you even care?

    Perhaps you can shed some light in the plight of Flight 370, which as you may choose (or not... depending on whether you decide it it factual enough). So where did it go?

    You are an excellent Democrat, in the way you shift conversations to something else to keep the agenda going (a good Obama trait, by the way) without answering the question presented to you with facts as they pertain to the question. This must be why they are always referred to as "ugly".

    Sure, you present facts. But they don't address the point. This is a familiar phenomenon in the United States Media over the last decade. Very good job!

    But the question remains, and I must ask...what the fuck are you really thinking? I don't think you are, either! You just do a great job of deflecting subjects by grabbing other random straws.
     
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    Balbus-

    You're really reaching here for points, no?

    an Athiest, yet qualified to talk about the factual matter of two different religions. One that wishes to remain peaceful, as we are taught by Jesus, and the other (Islam, taken directly from the Koran), which a few posts ago I proved beyond a doubt is about eliminating the lives of those who don't supplicate.

    I don't see that you're making any sense.
     
  8. Meliai

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    So if you're accusing Me again of avoiding the point, you should do a better job of stating your point then.

    I thought your point was that letting immigrants from the middle east into America is dangerous.

    Meagain addressed this point by showing that statistically it isn't dangerous.

    What point is he missing?
     
  9. Moonglow181

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    So hatred brings you here. That will lead you nowhere.
     
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  10. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It is the tribalism that is keeping you from the truth. It's so simple isn't it to think that it's all the fault of one party? You should dig deeper.
     
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    If this is true, why do we see the occasional terrorist attack in which ISIS takes responsibility for? How many does it take to be considered a real "problem"? 5, or 15, or..

    A problem, is a problem. Low statistical numbers mean nothing if the problem doesn't cease.
     
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    No Moonglow. Hatred brings them here. Facts bring me here. Calling out willful ignorance and redistributing it among others as a lack of wisdom keeps me here.

    Therein lies the difference.
     
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  13. Meliai

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    Islamic radicalization and extremism is a problem for the entire world

    Allowing carefully vetted refugees in from war torn countries that WE helped destroy doesnt seem to be a problem, based on statistics

    And allowing economic immigrants from these countries in to work and contribute to our economy doesnt seem to a problem, based on statistics

    I guess you dont meet very many Muslims in Indiana do you?
     
  14. Scratched

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    Your party is the one who has changed the face of America in the last eight years. Everyone seems to have forgotten the events during 9/11.

    We never used to see Islamic problems occurring on our home turf.

    America was once respected as a World leader. It is a well known fact that when America is doing well economically and is not being successfully harassed by rogue countries, the rest of the world does well.

    The tribalism we have seen in our country over the last decade has only come from one party, and their terrific influence on our Media outlets. Who in turn are trying their damnedest to disgrace Donald J. Trump somehow...anyhow possible.

    Like this will actually "fix" anything.
     
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  15. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It's as if you did not read anything. You are still caught up in this us vs. them attitude.
    Until you understand that both parties are there for this reason I don't know what to tell you. Go ahead let that hate destroy you. Meanwhile I will see the big picture.
     
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    Hillary and Obama wanted to allow thousands in (five figures) to begin with.

    We have been screening them through NSA, CIA and FBI. Thank God...

    Think of a dish of 10,000 M&Ms.

    Guess which ones are radical! There you go.

    You see what has happened all over Europe in the last few years, they said they were coming here, yet you want us to believe there is no problem. I call Bullshit.
     
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    This is not HATE, it's COMMON SENSE. I know, a thing of the past.

    Like I posted above, they told us they will come to America. Go ahead and sip on your "HATE kool-aid". It's not going to fix anything.

    If you don't care, others do.
     
  18. Meliai

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    Yeah we've all heard the m&m thing

    M&ms aren't people. We're talking about human lives here, refugees of war. But you either empathize with them or you don't, we're coming from ttwo different value systems here it appears.

    Thankfully it is unconstitutional to ban people from entrance into America based on religion, which is why Truml's travel ban hasn't stuck and also why your point is moot
     
  19. unfocusedanakin

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    I hope one day you move past this. Obviously I can not tell you anything. But the beauty of life is the time you have to learn. I don't want to sound like I'm superior or putting you down but your on such a low frequency here. Try to find common ground we are all American. But that seems to be the thing with you. The other guy is not American.
     
  20. MeAgain

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    Dobbstown, Malaysia is the fictional abode of J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, the fictional founder of the Church of the SubGenius, or maybe not.
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    Flight 370 went down in the Indian Ocean, probably the northern part.
    If you think I live in Malaysia, why would you think I'm a Democrat?

    I have not shifted the conversation. You commented on:
    And you said "proud Democrats" don't understand why you and others don't like immigration. And you asked what we're thinking.
    I replied with the facts on immigration and terrorism, which I assumed you wouldn't like, so I called them ugly.

    I answered the question by presenting facts. That's how I view the "immigrant killing machines" you refer to and that's how I think about what you said. I pointed out that there aren't any "immigrant killing machines".
    How is that shifting the conversation? Am I required to agree with you?
    How didn't I address the point?

    Now as to what I'm thinking, I'm thinking you are presenting an argument of false attribution.
    You are presenting an idea that is not based in fact, it's irrelevant, unqualified, unidentified, and based on a biased or fabricated source or sources.
    You a make a ridiculous statement about "immigrant killing machines" with no factual basis to back it up, then you go on to use hyperbole and an appeal to emotion by insinuating that these immigrants will kill/rape/mutilate our spouses/children.

    I'm thinking you are fear mongering in the worst possible way and you are making racist statements, and I'm using the term racism as defined by the U.N.

    I'm thinking of George Washington:
     
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