Have you ever wondered why the USA hasn't had another terror attack like 9/11? Have you ever wondered why Bush is so confident there won't be one while he is president? There can be several answers. The conspiracy theorists will tell you that 9/11 was an inside job. But that doesn't explain why there was a previous attempt by Islamic fundamentalists to bring down the WTC before. It was already an obvious target, and at worse you can blame the US gov't for not being proactive enough after the first try. My guess is that President Bush has made a direct threat against Iran, who seemingly has far more control over the Islamic terrorists than anyone gives them credit for. Indeed they are sheltering Bin Laden's son who has a safe haven in Iran from where he plots more attacks. I suppose the THREE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS and their battle groups, helping to surround Iran on all four sides (we also have troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and Uzbekistan ready to strike). So any threat against Iran would be that more credible with that kind of force already in place, ready to go. So what kind of threat was it that Bush has leveled against Iran, which is obviously a STATE SECRET? I believe that Bush has threatened Iraq with the following: 1. Attacks against all its nuclear facilities (this is already public knowledge). 2. Attacks against all its military bases (these would be planned as a matter of course). 3. Attacks against other targets, most likely infrastructure like roads, bridges, communications, etc., just like the attack on Baghdad. 4. Attacks on economic targets, most likely large businesses, industrial capacity, etc. 5. NO attacks will be leveled against Iran's oil industry, because the US and British oil companies intend to eventually take those over once a friendly puppet gov't is again installed in Iran. 6. Bush won't rule out the use of Nukes against Iran, and in fact these will probably be launched first against their hardened nuclear facilities. But those low level tactical nukes won't be the only ones used, depending upon the nature of the terror attack against the US and Iran's immediate response to the US attack. 7. All this would probably be followed by an INVASION of Iran, with the aim of securing their most accessible oil fields along the border with Iraq. Rather than launch a full invasion, it would be tightly targeted to get the REAL GOAL of Iran's oil wealth. All of this has probably been made quite clear to the Iranian leadership and THAT is the ONLY reason the US has not been attacked again. And it implies that Iran has enough power to still Al-Qaeda terror network should it chose to do so. After all Bin Laden's son is at their mercy, but is probably being feted these days... If you don't believe this, then recall the day Ronald Reagan took office. That very day Iran released 444 hostages held during the Carter admin. Why? Cause Reagan no doubt was ready to attack Iran big time, and the Iranians knew it. What really is WRONG about all this is all the political posturing by Bush and Iran when they both know the real score. Both leaders are making a TON of political hay by pretending to be BULLIES, squaring off against one another. Meanwhile their countrymen are BLIND to the real dangers this game of blind man's bluff is exposing the world to. All the Bush admin knows how to do is THREATEN others when they don't get their way. God forbid they should try diplomacy for a change. It's like diplomacy is now extinct as a part of America's foreign policy...
How critically have you looked at the first WTC attack, Skip? Because if you had looked at it critically, you would know the FBI trained the driver and helped cook the bomb that was used that day. How do we know this? Because it was all caught on tape by one of the informers / would-be patsies, who defected at the last minute by going to authorities with this taped conversation he covertly recorded between himself and government agents. The patsies / informers were told initially they were being used as part of a terrorist drill, then that they were to infiltrate a terrorist cell plotting to blow up the towers. The informer that defected was told that the "officials" wanted to switch the explosives with harmless power, but called this off at the last minute because they had other plans for how he would be used. So this is when the informer defected and went to the police. This made it to the front page of the New York Times, before it was quickly swept under the rug and we never heard about it again. Of course being an establishment mouthpiece, the NYT article does not blatantly come out and say the government was directly involved, but if you can read between the lines, as well as look at the rest of the evidence, it is more than clear. Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 "Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast" http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/wtcbomb.html It also needs to be understood that ALL 4 accused "terrorists" who went to trial for these attacks were on the CIA payroll. See also: 1993 World Trade Center bombing case (Oct 28 1993 CBS News w/ Dan Rather) The truth regarding the 1993 WTC bombing Sorry, but all this nonsense about al-Qaeda and Arab terrorists is bullshit that has been concocted to scare the people of the West into submission so they will accept whatever actions the government puts forward, including being monitored wherever they go like cattle. This is the oldest trick in the book, yet people are still falling for it, thinking the government really wants to protect them from the evil Muslim boogeymen THEY trained and funded. I mean, c'mon, Skip... the US brought bin Laden to the states in the mid 80's under the alias 'Tim Osman' and trained him for the role he serves today. Why do you think they haven't found him? Maybe because they don't want to find him. He is an asset to them! He is one of their main guys! Even the name "al-Qaeda" comes from a CIA database file on the Mujahadeen, which western intelligence funded in the late 70's and 80's to go against the Soviets. Al-Qaeda translates to "the base" (the database) and in the Middle East is slang for going to the bathroom. How convenient is it that a radical Islamist terrorist network would name itself in reference to a bodily function? IT'S ALL A BIG SCAM!!!
9/11 was "allowed" to happen. The best way to bring people together for a common cause is to scare the hell out of them. Then the neocons can come to our rescue and save us from those evildoers from the "outside". This cements their power without much opposition, allowing subversion of our laws and our military for use in private agendas. The dust has now settled enough where people are beginning to realize they've been had. The only option for the neocons at this point is to shake the Osama rattle again and make people fall back into line. Some kind of national emergency. Sometime maybe before election day. Should someone like Hilary Clinton get the presidency, things will continue pretty much along the same path. She's a closet neocon and AIPAC darling. And she'll have a fresh start at continuing the mess we're already in. x
I suppose I could believe it was "allowed" to happen if I thought "al-Qaeda" (which is nothing more than a CIA-MI6-ISI-Mossad front) was able to pulverize two buildings in ten seconds, as well as launch that missile into the Pentagon. Of course Marvin Bush was running security on the towers until the 10th, but I suppose THAT's just a coincidence as well. So were the war game excercises that were taking place that day that involved planes crashing into buildings. Yup, it's all just a coincidence. It's all just mere incompetence. Let's all just go back to sleep because the government loves us and wants to protect us from the "evil doers."
My opinion is other terrorist attacks have taken place, but they are not acknowledged as such for political reasons. Who sent the anthrax? I have trouble seeing Iran as the big boogieman.
Not until the media says so with authority to back it up, until then it's just speculation and conspiracy theories. I find it strange that the American public and world public has not ask for some determinitive answer to this question, but then only a few low level employees were killed, so who really cares?
A few low level employees were killed, but a whole DEMOCRACY was undermined by the Anthrax attacks, which I see as opportunism by a still secret group to get the Dems to back the Patriot Act and the war against Afghanistan. So I don't see the Anthrax attacks as anything external to the US. In fact, other than there being multiple mailings of anthrax, there is NO OTHER CONNECTION to Al-Qaeda's methods at all. They prefer MASS, innocent casualties. If anything Al-Qaeda would've sent anthrax to the CIA, Pentagon, White House and Republican leaders, who were their real targets, not the Dem leaders and the media! Makes no sense whatsoever. And the LACK of investigation and further discussion of this by the Executive branch indicates just how deeply involved in all this they are... As far as 9/11 goes, I'm firmly in the "they let it happen" camp. The only question remaining for me is how much did our gov't actually know about the plot. I think they might've known it was going to hit the WTC, but they didn't know when, which is always Al-Qaeda's biggest secret! As I've said before, I'm sure they had a doomsday plan for CIA headquarters in WTC7, to self-destruct if necessary to keep our "national secrets". Perhaps they even anticipated the attack, and wanted to bring that building down afterwards to hide a bunch of incriminating evidence against our political leaders. Remember Bohemian Grove? If it's a CIA operation, could be all that evidence of world leaders being bad boys there was compiled and stored at WTC7. Get rid of that and all those ppl can breathe easier cause then the CIA doesn't have anything on them anymore. Not to mention all the evidence of malfeasance by politicians in office. If anything WTC7 was brought down to HIDE the truth that existed there. Now there are many, many threads on 9/11, this one is about why there has been no attack since then.... Got it, conspiracy, yeah, yeah. Enough already.
Are you kidding me? The media, which is controlled by a total of SIX corporatons, whch are all tied in to the Military-Industrial Complex, whose heads are all members of the CFR? You expect THEM to deliver you the truth about anything? I hope you were being sarcastic. If not, you are very gullible. If you believe the media is telling you the truth, then you might as well go straight to the Pentagon or White House for your news. (That's where it all comes from anyway -- "official sources.") But the fact is, the media DID say that the anthrax came from a government lab (albeit in an indirect way). http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A34707-2001Dec12¬Found=true An Army biological and chemical warfare facility in Utah has been quietly developing a virulent, weapons-grade formulation of anthrax spores since at least 1992, and samples of the bacteria were shipped back and forth between that facility and Fort Detrick, Md. ... The Utah spores, grown and processed at the 800,000-acre Dugway Proving Ground about 80 miles from Salt Lake City, belong to the Ames strain -- the same strain used in the deadly letters sent to media outlets and two senators in September and October. No other nation is known to have made weapons-grade Ames -- The Washington Post http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/disc_anth.html The anthrax attacks in the United States were probably the work of a member of a U.S. biological warfare program, the magazine of environment pressure group Greenpeace Germany reported Wednesday. .. "The U.S. delegation believe it is an inside job. ... Their members also have more information than has been made public," Kirsten Brodde, a reporter for the magazine, told Reuters. The magazine said: "It seems the attacker ... wanted to force through an increase in the budget for U.S. research on biological weapons." -- The Discovery Channel
Well obviously SOMEONE knew, because Condoleeza Rice called then San Francisco mayor Willie Brown the night before 9/11, warning him not to fly the next day. This was reported by numerous mainstream sources. http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew2.html I can provide you NUMEROUS instances of foreknowledge from people in the government that the attacks would happen THAT DAY, but I don't think you want to see them. If this is true, then why would the CIA want to destroy their own documents? We KNOW what was in the building, and a lot of it was incriminating documents pertaining to the Enron scandal. It's also likely WTC-7 was where the 9/11 black-op was carried out. It was people like Giuliani who received warning from the OEM (Office of Emergency Management), which was located in building 7, that the buildings would collapse. Now HOW exactly did they know this when no building in the history of steel-frame buildings had collapsed from fire, and why didn't Giuliani pass this warning on to the firefighters and police who were in the towers?
Well it worked, and the dems didn't ask for an explanation or proof of what actually happened, did they. They appear as complicit in any cover up as the republicans.
Who said it was the CIA who destroyed their own documents. No it was an even MORE secret agency, the same one who did the Anthrax attacks. The same agency that does the secret bidding of the RNC. Plumbers they're usually called. Former CIA operatives who know their way around the agency. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the anthrax was actually STOLEN from one of the laboratories, or given to the CIA to use in case of some emergency, but was co-opted by the plumbers one way or another to be used against those most resistant to passing new spy legislation. Think about it. What end exactly did the Anthrax attacks achieve - MORE POWER TO SPY, esp. domestically. Something the CIA and NSA never had before. It was a secret group that did both the Anthrax attacks and the demolition of WTC7. As far as the WTC themselves, it was probably known the night before (the intelligence agencies all admit there was a huge increase in the communications "chatter" among terrorists just before 9/11 - hence the reason for warnings). My guess is the same operatives were so successful in their mission, Dick Cheney decided to create a whole new SPY agency for them, based out of the Pentagon. Cheney really isn't interested in getting the TRUTH about terrorists from this agency, he wants to use it to MANIPULATE other Americans by spying on THEM. People like politicians, business leaders, union leaders, protesters, anti-war groups, etc. Because that is what was DENIED to him by existing laws prior to the Patriot Act. Now can we PLEASE get back to the reasons why we haven't had another terror attack in the US (besides the anthrax, which were indeed our own gov't's secret doings)
So I gather, there was at least one other terrorist attack in the states, the delivery of the anthrax letters. Why don't the candidates for president ever bring it up? I personally still wonder about the downing of the plane in Queens. Seemed to me that before the smoke ever cleared too many people were saying it had nothing to do with terrorists. How could they know? The wreckage hadn't even been picked up. But then the majority of the passengers on it were foreign nationals returning home. Who really cares about legal visitors to this country.
The demolition of WTC7 is one of the weakest aspects of the 911 conspiracy theories. If it was a controlled demolition and couldn't have collapsed on its own, why was there so much eyewitness evidence from firefighters saying that the building looked dangerous, like it could collapse? It was heavily damaged and had burned out of control for hours. Eyewitness accounts of this are clear and consistent. The real question is why do people lie constantly to promote this conspiracy theory? What is their agenda?
Ah Pepik, seems all I need to do is mention a secret Black Ops group and you turn up like clockwork...hmmmm.... Got a vested interest there? What's YOUR agenda?
Dodging the question there Skip? Its simple - either you are saying the NYFD are in on 911 and lied when they said the building looked like it was going to collapse, or you accept their eyewitness testimony, in which case controlled demolition theories are junk. Your basis for WTC7 seems to be whether it would be ideologically convenient for you, not whether the theory can actually be backed up.
How do buildings "look like they're going to collapse" when a building has never collapsed from fire prior to 9/11? Furthermore, how does a building collapse the way WTC-7 did, on its own footprint in a matter of 6 seconds? Here is a clip from CNN, where you hear police saying "the building is about to blow up" coupled with the sound of explosions coming from the building? How did they know the building was going to fall, let alone "blow up"? I have never heard "blow up" used in reference to a building collapsing due to structural damage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9CXQY-bZn4
there is a whole proffession involved in determining things like the probabilities of structural failure. a litteral answer by anyone lacking in the neccessary scientific background would therefore likely be more then a little neive. considering the probabilities in their broader outlines however, it seems unlikely in the extreme that intrests either in the american government, or the major economic players, (which is essentially saying the same thing, considering the degree to which they appear to have usurped the political proccess) or both, didn't have a major hand in both planing and facilitating the events which subsiquently occured. if, as is claimed, these events were the work of individuals driven by having witnessed american attrocities in their homelands, why then, has there not been one single 'terrorist' attack, on an oil refinery, anywhere in the u.s.? personally i see that little detail as speaking volumes more, then all the splitting of hairs over specifics, of how the attacks were carried out. why weren't there other teams, positioned to strike while the iron was hot, so to speak, at oil industry infrastructure, in the immediate aftermath, when all commercial flights were being suspended, and wall street was essentially down for the week it took to get it back up? =^^= .../\...
I think there were, but for political reasons, we were always told they weren't "terrorist" connected. Something the Bush whitehouse is really proud of, why is that? Got him reelected though..the stance that we had never been attacked after 09/11.
No, you're the one dodging my questions, dude. And this is just more Deny, Distort, Distract, Derail tactics. Why hasn't there been another terror attack? That is the question.